RE: The Deceptive Mechanisms
December 14, 2012 at 11:37 pm
(This post was last modified: December 14, 2012 at 11:39 pm by Undeceived.)
(December 14, 2012 at 9:36 am)Rhythm Wrote: Those things may have escaped you, but here we have a little thing known as a clock. Sure, the water could come from anywhere, and if some asshole was running around multiple counties spoofing every weather station along the route (and our claimant just happened to be situated somewhere along that route or was the spoofer) we might have a problem. People might manipulate data but to make that one stick in this example you'd have to show that -I- was manipulating data. I don't have to predict anything - it was a claim of a past event. In my example we're just lucky that the event occurred at a point in time when adequate instrumentation existed. You think we shouldn't expect unfalsifiable evidence about any event that involves people? That's absurd. It's more likely that you -wish- for it to be true so that you might excuse some other concept you're about to pitch which suffers from an unfortunate lack of evidence.That all depends on your definition of "unfalsifiable" or "confirmable". We can't use the scientific method, so what can we use? This is a black-and-white issue. It doesn't matter what I "expect", what matters is whether the event can be confirmed by something other than human logic. So can it?
(December 14, 2012 at 11:27 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:So you trust them?(December 14, 2012 at 11:15 pm)Undeceived Wrote: In your mind, did Livy write "History of Rome"? Were Tacitus' "Annals" written by Tacitus? Did Suetonius author "Lives of the Twelve Caesars"? While we're at it, was "Antiquities of the Jews" written by Josephus?
Yes, yes, yes and yes