Hell

[ecolox]

Apparently God thinks teaching by example is most effective. If you know of a better way then share it please.

Since God knows everything, and can do anything. Why didn't he simply create humans in the first place so they can only do good, so they didn't need teaching, and why didn't he make life fair, so no one suffers? And so he's actually just?

If you thought freedom had value then you needn't have said anything at all.

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We do agree with a number of things but not when it comes to where we get our morality. We are both just as moral as each other. We'd both do moral things to save others. Reasons are a little different but the drive to do it is the same. We are more alike than unalike. We just have different views to where we get our morality. We get our morality from the same place, it's only our views that differ.

But, naturally, you might eat someone.

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Ecolox, perfection can only come from perfection. Imperfection cannot come from perfection. With that said, god is imperfect. If he is imperfect, he cannot be "god'.

Apparently perfection can degrade with freedom. We degraded. God is still God.