(December 17, 2012 at 8:44 am)Tiberius Wrote:(December 17, 2012 at 8:03 am)Kousbroek Wrote: Thx for the history lesson but that was back in the 18th century ... and i'm getting sick of all that stupid founding fathers bullshit.I know it was in the 18th century. The second amendment was included so that if needed, citizens could revolt against their government again. That provision is still needed IMO, as it should be in any government. Any government has the ability to fall to corruption and become oppressive.
Quote:In a modern day society there is no room for armed civilians and anyone who thinks otherwise is either paranoid or just out of his right mind ( or both ).Say that to the civilians who just retook their countries from dictators in the Arab Spring. If you think that the world is perfect, or that any government on this planet is perfect and cannot become oppresive, then it is you that is out of his right mind.
Quote:But keep on defending 'the right to bear arms' so we can wait for the next 'i took my mommy's gun to school and killed everyone in sight' incident.Sorry, but there is a big difference between owning a gun and using one to commit mass murder. What we can do to limit the number of these incidents is do better background checks on people who want guns, and focus a lot of effort on the recognition and treatment of mental disorders.
What a load of crap.
Civilians armed with hand weapons won't stop a government from becoming corrupt.
We need armed police and army because the world isn't perfect, another stupid remark.
And if we checked mommy better would that have prevented this horrible tragedy ?
Another utterly stupid assumption, the only way to prevent people from shooting each other is by getting rid of weapons.
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