(December 27, 2012 at 6:37 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: So...the manufacturers of firearms are all selling the guns so we gun each other down? What sense does that make? I mean that's what you're suggesting the intent of all gunsmiths is. And, I dunno who most of these individuals are...I have a fairly extensive group of friends who are into guns along with myself...none of them are willing to give up ANYTHING just because some other assholes are killing people. Do you have a source you can cite on this? Because I sure as fuck have no inclination towards giving up ANYTHING of my own just because some psychotic dickheads are using firearms of their own to murder others.
NO, I am saying that it is a climate, not a conspiracy. Just like our 30 year downtrend in economic stability was not caused by one single person or group, but the climate. Much like a hurricane needs certain conditions to occur.
Again, gun manufacturers are like any other business. They are not about to go out of their way, unless a force(society or law) acts on them, to deliberately reduce the demand of their product.
But the fact remains that on average 32 people die every day because of use of a gun. Those are facts not in dispute. Now again, if you cannot see that as a problem, I cant help you. But sitting there crying "I'm not giving up anything" isn't going to wash. It is a selfish attitude. Your rights end where my face begins.
If if if if if if if if if if if if if if if the climate were reducing gun death instead of allowing it to be so big, this would not be an issue. But "me" does not mean we should be the wild west just because.
Poor poor Dirty Harry needs his Magnum otherwise big bad gubment will get him. Missing the point that this is an epidemic issue, not a rights issue. I really don't think you can face many people affected by any type of gun death and spew the absurdities you are using to cry "poor me". You can try, but I doubt you'll get much sympathy.
"I didn't do it" "don't take it out on me", isn't the issue. You are using those as excuses to be selfish yourself. What would you suggest other than "more of the same", because what I am getting from you is exactly that "more of the same".
Please give me some suggestions other than "me me me me mine mine mine mine" because by this time tomorrow your "me me me me" status quo attitude (maintaining current attitude as far as climate) will allow the conditions for 32 more people to be killed with guns.