Determinism.....

[Edwardo Piet]

Depends what you mean 'make our own choices'. Do you mean the simple fact that we make choices, or do you mean that we can force our own choices despite the fact that the part of us that does the choosing, the part of that we call 'us', that we call our 'self'...is the brain and is what makes the choices. IOW: How can you control your brain with your brain? Your brain does the controlling!

Do you just mean the undeniable fact that we make choices? What do you mean by 'make our own'?

As the poll I'm not voting because it's a false dichotomy, because I'd probably like to vote "neither". I am not sure whether I am an indeterminism or determinism, but I think I would support indeterminism due to what I've heard about Quantum Mechanics. I'm a bit on the dark about that matter.

But I don't believe in "free will" because I don't think our will is "free", for reasons stated on this thread. I don't see how randomness, how indeterminacy can make your will "free". Freedom of possibility maybe, of fluctuation, but not freedom of Will, or IOW, not freedom of control.

I'm what's known as a pessimistic incompatibilist then it seems, according to Wikipedia. Because I would say I believe in indeterminacy, at least Quantum indeterminacy , and I would say I was an indeterminist on the whole: But I nevertheless, don't believe in free will.

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