God is not Great

[Tiberius]

I tell you what Shell, when you actually manage to talk to a NK civilian then I'll believe you. They're a socialist state, and an atheist state.

Why does she have the burden of proof here? You made the claim, not us. You've presented your evidence (that they call themselves an atheist country), and we've presented ours (that the personality cult of the Kim dynasty clearly resembles a religion). We don't need to talk to a NK civilian in order to come to an educated conclusion here. I think it's borderline intellectually dishonest to suggest that Shell needs to talk to an NK civilian in order for you to believe her. You know full well that task is almost impossible, given the restrictive access NK has to outsiders, and the fact that anyone who gains access to the country will have guards with them constantly.