God is not Great

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Lion that's brilliant. Not only is it good for a giggle - it's also absolutely true. As if you can't tell me that secular states don't rape and pillage their people; Americans have quite literally cannibalized themselves (they started by enslaving blacks, then they spent their descendant's future money, then their banks gave liar's loans and caused the 2008 GFC, then all the most corrupt got bailed out by the US Government, they torture their POW's in Guantanamo Bay in direct contradiction the UN treaty against torture which is as scandalous, immoral and unethical as breaching the Geneva convention, etc) - and that's just the USA one of the countries we believe to be more "moderate" more "peaceful".

The truth hurts, and their defence that morality comes from our species and not out God is counterintuitive anyway, not to mention an arbitrary, abstract construct which applies unevenly and appeals to personal opinion on matters of right and wrong over the wisdom/guidance of an authoritative source on the matter.

Brilliant? It's one of the oldest arguments, and in my opinion one of the scariest. The implication behind it is that the bible or god is the only thing keeping Christians back from being murdering raping lunatics. I am worried about anyone who makes the argument from morality. It says to me that they have a desire to kill people and don't because they fear God's wrath. It means they are a dangerous human being who's own moral scale I question.

Not only that, but the argument that morality comes from God is hopelessly flawed. If you have any grasp of history, you can see that morality clearly shifts from place to place and era to era. It's not an inborn thing at all. In much of the ancient world, even murder wasn't considered wrong unless it was someone of the same or greater social class. Is that the type of inborn God-given morality you are talking about? As recently as the 19th century we took children to see battles and public executions and nobody blinked at the wrongness of it. Is that our inborn morality? Morals are clearly cultural, the only way I think someone could conclude otherwise is if they have no grasp of history at all.