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God is not Great
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RE: God is not Great
He's talking about this:

Logically Fallacious: Appeal to Consequence Wrote:Description: Concluding that an idea or proposition is true or false because the consequences of it being true or false are desirable or undesirable. The fallacy lies in the fact that the desirability is not related to the truth value of the idea or proposition. This comes in two forms: the positive and negative.

Logical Forms:

X is true because if people did not accept X as being true then there would be negative consequences.



X is false because if people did not accept X as being false, then there would be negative consequences.



X is true because accepting that X is true has positive consequences.



X is false because accepting that X is false has positive consequences.

Example (positive):

If there is objective morality, then good moral behavior will be rewarded after death. I want to be rewarded, therefore morality must be objective.

Example (negative):

If there is no objective morality, then all the bad people will not be punished for their bad behavior after death. I don’t like that, therefore morality must be objective.

Explanation: The fact that one wants to be rewarded, or wants other people to suffer, says nothing to the truth claim of objective morality. These examples are also begging the question that there is life after death.

http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index...nsequences


EDIT: I'd also like to point out that your diagram is an example of classical condition, which is enforced via association. This makes no sense with your post. I think you were maybe thinking of operant conditioning, which deals with consequence.
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God is not Great - by craig - December 26, 2012 at 12:46 am
RE: God is not Great - by Shell B - December 26, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: God is not Great - by Annik - December 26, 2012 at 12:56 am
RE: God is not Great - by Cinjin - December 26, 2012 at 12:59 am
RE: God is not Great - by Minimalist - December 26, 2012 at 1:07 am
RE: God is not Great - by Aractus - December 26, 2012 at 1:35 am
RE: God is not Great - by Shell B - December 26, 2012 at 10:21 am
RE: God is not Great - by Creed of Heresy - December 26, 2012 at 10:54 am
RE: God is not Great - by Brian37 - December 26, 2012 at 11:17 am
RE: God is not Great - by frankiej - December 26, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Tiberius - December 26, 2012 at 4:51 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Aractus - December 27, 2012 at 6:33 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Lion IRC - December 26, 2012 at 6:41 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Tiberius - December 26, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Lion IRC - December 26, 2012 at 10:33 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Shell B - December 26, 2012 at 7:37 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Lion IRC - December 26, 2012 at 9:06 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Shell B - December 26, 2012 at 9:11 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Lion IRC - December 26, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RE: God is not Great - by frankiej - December 26, 2012 at 9:38 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Shell B - December 26, 2012 at 9:48 pm
RE: God is not Great - by frankiej - December 26, 2012 at 9:52 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Whateverist - December 27, 2012 at 10:29 pm
RE: God is not Great - by The Grand Nudger - December 27, 2012 at 2:58 am
RE: God is not Great - by Brian37 - December 27, 2012 at 6:42 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Aractus - December 27, 2012 at 7:03 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Brian37 - December 27, 2012 at 10:40 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Shell B - December 27, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Aractus - December 27, 2012 at 10:22 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Shell B - December 27, 2012 at 10:56 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Minimalist - December 28, 2012 at 11:35 am
RE: God is not Great - by Cyberman - December 27, 2012 at 10:25 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Tiberius - December 27, 2012 at 10:48 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Lion IRC - December 30, 2012 at 6:20 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Nine - December 30, 2012 at 6:25 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Aractus - December 28, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: God is not Great - by Tiberius - December 29, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RE: God is not Great - by CapnAwesome - December 29, 2012 at 1:45 pm
RE: God is not Great - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2012 at 9:07 am
RE: God is not Great - by Whateverist - December 28, 2012 at 11:20 am
RE: God is not Great - by KichigaiNeko - December 29, 2012 at 11:26 am
RE: God is not Great - by Dee Dee Ramone - December 29, 2012 at 1:11 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Shell B - December 29, 2012 at 3:47 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Brian37 - December 29, 2012 at 6:41 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Lion IRC - December 30, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Brian37 - December 30, 2012 at 6:18 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Lion IRC - December 30, 2012 at 10:07 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Nine - December 30, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 30, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Brian37 - December 31, 2012 at 6:46 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Aractus - December 31, 2012 at 12:54 am
RE: God is not Great - by CapnAwesome - December 31, 2012 at 11:22 am
RE: God is not Great - by Lion IRC - December 30, 2012 at 6:40 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Nine - December 30, 2012 at 6:42 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Lion IRC - December 30, 2012 at 10:28 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 30, 2012 at 10:30 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Lion IRC - December 30, 2012 at 10:34 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 31, 2012 at 1:17 am
RE: God is not Great - by Lion IRC - December 31, 2012 at 9:15 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Nine - December 30, 2012 at 10:30 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Phish - December 31, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Minimalist - December 31, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Annik - December 31, 2012 at 9:21 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Lion IRC - December 31, 2012 at 10:56 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 31, 2012 at 11:00 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Lion IRC - December 31, 2012 at 11:00 pm
RE: God is not Great - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 31, 2012 at 11:06 pm

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