(January 3, 2013 at 11:07 pm)jonb Wrote: Having spent nearly six months on this forum, I must admit I am surprised by the amount christians are actually arguing against their own philosophy.
What I have noticed so far
Christians arguing the burden of proof is on atheist to prove there is no god.
This is a problem for christian philosophy because the starting point it implies is, that god is revealed, and atheists have to show what is revealed is not god. With that view there is no faith, and without faith there is no means of trust, as such there are no christians.
One would have thought people trying to convert me would be asking for my trust, but they don't, they demand god is evident, thus denying their faith and philosophy. What better reason could there be not to trust them?
Having noticed this, I am now questioning whether a lot of what purports to be christian has anything to do with that philosophy at all.
Is the actual motivation from people that wish to be in the same sort of culture as their mums and dads, rather than seeking a relationship to an old philosophy? An instance of this would be A Theist's devotion to his gun rather than a need to turn the other cheek.
Given that this also occurred to me, the attacks on the understanding of evolution is not because it is in contravention of their philosophy, but rather it contravenes the understanding their culture had when it was formed?
To explain before Louis Pasteur most people thought life naturally arose out of anything. Leave a pile of old socks in a corner and you got mice. No christian had a problem with that idea up to the 1850s, which is about the time the fundamentalist christians were forming in the mid west USA.
Now from the descendants of those fundamentalists we hear only god has the power to give life. So is it cristianity they are calling for, or merely the culture of their forefathers, and its understanding of science.
Is it christanity we are even arguing with or just some fools that want it to be forever 1850.
Wow, and "Christians" are the ones who supposedly had the closed minds.
I guess you can support all of the assertions you made about Christians on this website, and aren't just pulling things out of your "arse or tits," just to argue a stereotype. For instance you do have in mind a comment or thread that, "all Christians on this web site made in the Last 6 months agree with." that DIRECTLY caused you to spawn this thread?
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Is this just a closed minded nonspecific observation of Christianity in general, that hits on 3 key stereotypical points that most all atheists would agree to?
If you 'obersvation' does not speak to the actual christians on this website then can it be said that you are just projecting your own personal closed-mindedness onto others via a personal bigotry for those who do not share your own personal philosphy?