RE: The rock God can't lift.
January 6, 2013 at 6:59 am
(This post was last modified: January 6, 2013 at 7:06 am by Brian37.)
Quote:If we hold omnipotence as the ability to do everything that is logically possible, then I don't see what the problem is with it.
Again, once they swallow "God can do what he wants", then they can move the goal posts, so in that context, sure it does work.
(January 6, 2013 at 5:40 am)Tiberius Wrote:(January 5, 2013 at 11:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: http://www.keepbelieving.com/sermon/2002...-Were-Not/Do they mean that literally, or do they mean within the limits of what he can already do. This appears to be a problem in this thread; everyone takes things too literally.
I mean, you can apply the phrase "he does what he wants" to humans too, but we never mean it literally. We mean, "he does what he wants...when he can".
So the question is, when a theist says that their God can do what he wants, do they mean it literally, or are they talking figuratively in order to express the power their God supposedly has.
It doesn't matter.
"When he can" if taken literally, makes no sense because he is all powerful which would mean "all the time or whenever he feels like it", not limited to "when he can".
"When he can" if only taken metaphorically would also mean nothing because it does nothing to go to empirical evidence.
In the end both are part of the same tactic, when it doesn't work switch.
Neither of these do anything to make such a claim definable to testable degree and are merely the imaginations of those who invent such concepts.