Transexuals

[Aractus]

It's true, but I have seen it argued before that unless a transgendered person can reproduce as desired after surgery: they will not consider them as their proper gender.

It's bigoted, it's stupid, it is definitely inaccurate, but I've seen it argued. By my parents, no less... sigh. However, it does remain true that we cannot yet change the DNA of a person in this manner (which would be to change that XX to XY, or XY to XX), and despite the lack of major physical changes associated with changing sex... it remains the only way to do it.

If it were possible today, and free, I'm not even sure I'd go for it. Because that's very dangerous.

You should be careful when using words such as "bigoted". You are the one who has decided that you wanted to change something about yourself, and then are expecting other people to accept that change. Most people don't hold such an extreme view that "your gender identity is your choice and reflects your true gender", and would be mortified if they saw men in women's change rooms and vice versa. You can't expect people to see things your way, especially if your way is at odds with social norms.

There are differing views in the medical profession on this. Those views that are not reflective of your own are not necessarily bigoted, especially as they may approach the matter in a more similar way to dissociative identity disorder, where many now feel the best course of action is to directly address the person's self identity, and attempt to rebuild it.

DNA doesn't decide your gender, chemicals of your mothers manage that while you're developing. If estrogen starts slowing in her system after the baby begins forming as a girl... the child has a chance of being a transman. If estrogen skyrockets while a baby boy is forming... the child has a chance of being a transwoman. Not causation, but it does correlate.

But DNA *is* what defines sex. And so, no... that isn't inaccurate Sex and gender may correlate, but you can be a man in a woman's body, a woman in a man's body, or anything in between. It is definitely true that sex and gender can be mismatched.

No, DNA isn't what defines sex. It is influential in determining it, it is not what defines it. Ask any biologist, and they'll tell you that the biological sex of an organism is determined by its physical characteristics (but not necessarily its capabilities).

Oh and "gender" = "sex". You have a loose definition that fits your world-view, and it's fine for you to have that, but you can't expect the rest of us to share it I'm afraid. That doesn't make us bigots, anymore than accepting evolution makes someone "anti-Xian". You're basically using the word "gender" in place of "gender identity". I'm not trying to cause any ripples on this subject, so carry on.

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Because me and my sister were playing with barbies when I was 5, and there were a bunch of female barbies, and one Ken doll. And I took his little plastic sword and symbolically lopped his penis off, and then broke a pretty dress by fitting it around him. Then mom came and and got pissed off at us (most of the barbies were naked, we hadn't gotten to dressing them up yet...)

Yeah, totally learned behavior. Gotta be.

No not learned behaviour. Learned self identity.