RE: Islam - False Religion!
January 19, 2013 at 8:59 pm
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2013 at 9:05 pm by Brian37.)
(January 19, 2013 at 8:41 pm)ThatMuslimGuy Wrote:(January 19, 2013 at 8:34 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No, the violent ones are the ones who are reading it correctly, in all three Abrahamic religions.
The God character(like reviewing a character in a book) has club members, the narrative as written describes the "chosen people"' as their job is to defend the leader.
You simply think non-violence is the way to defend it, otherwise you wouldn't be defending it at all by trying to appeal to us that you are right. They the violent ones in all three of these religions also read the same books and come to different conclusions, thus proving my point that those books are inherently divisive.
You cannot use the cop out excuse "I got it right, and they got it wrong" because all of you think you got it right and read the same books".
With all the division in the world due to all these religions I'd say all books have an inept God who cant write, or have written a clear instruction manual that would prevent all this murder on anyone's part.
If Allah/God?Yahweh were to own a bicycle factory and made such sloppy assembly instructions the bike buyers would end up with squid for spokes and murder their neighbor for their bike chain.
But the world in such a peaceful state isn't it?
I'm not using any cop out. If you read something e.g.
"None of you truly believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself."
[Reported by al-Bukhari (13), Muslim (45), Ahmad (3/176), at-Tirmidhi (5215), Ibn Majah (66), an-Nasa'i (8/115), and Ibn Hibban (234)]
how have i read it wrong?
Yes anyone can pick a handful of verses and justify something. But is that what the religion teaches? No. You don't take a handful of verses, you take the whole.
Yes you are. Would you like me to find Koran quotes that other people use to justify violence because I can and will find them.
It is called cherry picking, you do it, they do it, Christians and Jews do it with their books too. Which is why I said those three books of all three religions are ALL inherently divisive.
AND AGAIN I WILL REPEAT, so please stop ignoring this.
If those books were well written, to avoid confusion and conflict, we wouldn't have humanity so divided. The reason we do is because of the way god characters of all three are written(as literary characters). Which is why I say I would not hire such a god to write assembly instructions for a bicycle.
The plot of all those books is simple, "Follow me and defend me".
Don't read it with a hand up your back like a puppet, read everything in it, including the nasty stuff and don't gloss it over or pretend it does not exist in that book.
Cherry picking is the only way you can cling to such a nasty book. But all three are nasty and all three have a god who is all about him and sticks knives in human hands and says "last one standing gets to hang out with me".
The reason you cannot understand me is because you have already drank the Kool Aid. Read it all, as if you had never heard of Islam or picked up a Koran. Read it like you were doing a movie review. Read it as if you were not a Muslim.
I am quite sure you would already accept that people use the bible to justify both non violence and violence. I am merely suggesting to both of you that you both are not doing anything differently, you merely think you are.