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muhammeds purpose
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RE: muhammeds purpose
There is a wide error in the understanding of the "prophet" concept. also in understanding god.

Most people -when hearing about prophets and god & purpose- directly think about the biblical concept & image of adam & eve, and the secret comedy plots between god & satan, and how humans are punished, then prophets come to save them by ending up in a cross, and become half-gods. Weird stuff.

The truth is-though-, to answer your question, needs a little bit of an extra explanation of what a prophet is, and why most prophets didn't do any big things in the world.

Our existence on this earth is a mere test. Epic, apocalyptical exam by god to all humanity, after what adam & eve did in heaven. Simple true story from Islam POV :

god told adam & eve not to eat from a certain tree in heaven.
satan hated adam & eve.
satan went to adam & eve.
satan seduced.
adam & eve (both) accepted, they ate from the tree.
god cursed satan, and forgave humans for their sin, but sent them to earth as a final exam, with satan, to see who will still believe in god, and who would follow satan's way (one of the most brutal ways, is knowing for sure that god exists, but yet you choose not to worship).

what people fail to understand in Islam, is that democracy is upon humanity since their creation.
Which means the following :

if a prophet called the people, and the people didn't listen, the prophet will not be able to do anything else. the people will stay non-believers. God will not force them to worship him, yet god let them choose.

so, a prophet is not about victory or defeat, a prophet is not about a shiny army of angeles led by him-the prophet-, like the image of jesus in christianity..

the prophet is a man, just like me or you, he doesn't have super powers.. and in some cases : he gets beaten up, slashed, and even killed in action.

the prophet is a mere "wake up call". it's up the humans around him to listen, follow.
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muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 20, 2013 at 2:50 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Nine - January 20, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Something completely different - January 20, 2013 at 5:21 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Meylis Delano Lawrence - February 20, 2013 at 12:00 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by WinterHold - January 20, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 20, 2013 at 9:32 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by WinterHold - January 20, 2013 at 9:43 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 20, 2013 at 9:59 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 4:52 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 21, 2013 at 10:27 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 10:33 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 21, 2013 at 10:45 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 10:55 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 21, 2013 at 11:04 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 11:21 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 21, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 21, 2013 at 12:15 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 12:29 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 1:06 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 21, 2013 at 1:29 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 2:03 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 21, 2013 at 2:29 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 3:57 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 21, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 21, 2013 at 6:34 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 6:41 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 21, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 6:52 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 21, 2013 at 6:55 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 7:00 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 21, 2013 at 7:03 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 7:36 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 21, 2013 at 7:40 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 7:47 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by paulpablo - January 22, 2013 at 8:56 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Something completely different - January 21, 2013 at 7:41 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Metallica - January 21, 2013 at 7:47 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by jonb - January 21, 2013 at 7:57 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 21, 2013 at 5:47 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 9:59 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Something completely different - January 20, 2013 at 7:12 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Minimalist - January 20, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 8:33 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 20, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Something completely different - January 20, 2013 at 7:21 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Nine - January 20, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Ryantology - January 20, 2013 at 7:33 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 7:36 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Nine - January 20, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 7:38 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Nine - January 20, 2013 at 7:47 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Dee Dee Ramone - January 20, 2013 at 7:35 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 20, 2013 at 7:36 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Something completely different - January 20, 2013 at 7:39 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Dee Dee Ramone - January 20, 2013 at 7:41 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Something completely different - January 20, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 20, 2013 at 8:02 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 8:03 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 20, 2013 at 8:06 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 7:44 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 7:47 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 7:49 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 7:51 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Dee Dee Ramone - January 20, 2013 at 8:03 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 8:04 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Something completely different - January 20, 2013 at 7:52 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 7:59 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Darwinian - January 20, 2013 at 8:00 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 8:02 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Ryantology - January 20, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 8:10 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Ryantology - January 20, 2013 at 8:13 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 8:05 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 8:07 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 8:12 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 8:18 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 8:23 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 8:25 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 20, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Angrboda - January 20, 2013 at 8:09 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 8:16 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Ryantology - January 20, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 20, 2013 at 8:34 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Ryantology - January 20, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 20, 2013 at 8:39 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 20, 2013 at 8:15 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 8:17 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 20, 2013 at 8:19 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by WinterHold - January 20, 2013 at 8:26 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 8:28 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by WinterHold - January 20, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Minimalist - January 20, 2013 at 8:33 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 20, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 8:34 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 8:38 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 8:41 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 8:43 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 8:51 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 8:53 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 8:56 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Minimalist - January 20, 2013 at 8:46 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 8:49 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by WinterHold - January 20, 2013 at 8:49 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 8:59 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 9:03 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 20, 2013 at 9:05 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 20, 2013 at 9:08 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 20, 2013 at 9:10 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Minimalist - January 20, 2013 at 9:37 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Minimalist - January 20, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by WinterHold - January 20, 2013 at 9:49 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 21, 2013 at 9:22 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 9:37 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 22, 2013 at 10:20 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by WinterHold - January 22, 2013 at 2:39 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 22, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by jonb - January 21, 2013 at 10:45 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Minimalist - January 21, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Minimalist - January 21, 2013 at 3:33 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Ryantology - January 21, 2013 at 6:20 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Edwardo Piet - January 22, 2013 at 5:40 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Minimalist - January 21, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Metallica - January 21, 2013 at 7:07 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Minimalist - January 21, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Something completely different - January 21, 2013 at 7:19 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Minimalist - January 21, 2013 at 8:15 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Metallica - January 21, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 8:06 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Metallica - January 21, 2013 at 8:27 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 8:33 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Metallica - January 21, 2013 at 9:03 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 9:18 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by WinterHold - January 21, 2013 at 8:20 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Minimalist - January 21, 2013 at 8:22 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Minimalist - January 21, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by WinterHold - January 21, 2013 at 8:48 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 21, 2013 at 8:54 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Minimalist - January 21, 2013 at 9:39 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Al-Fatihah - January 22, 2013 at 5:59 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Minimalist - January 22, 2013 at 10:59 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by WinterHold - January 22, 2013 at 9:35 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by KichigaiNeko - January 23, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: muhammeds purpose - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 23, 2013 at 8:47 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Minimalist - January 23, 2013 at 8:49 pm
RE: muhammeds purpose - by Kane - January 24, 2013 at 8:05 am



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