(October 18, 2009 at 11:11 pm)Arcanus Wrote:(October 17, 2009 at 10:28 am)solarwave Wrote: I think I understand what you mean now, but I don't see how there is any moral responsibility in it.
Describe to me where you see an absence of moral responsibility; i.e., what you understand moral responsibility to be and how what I said fails to square with it.
I havn't read what you wrote in a while now, but am I right in thinking you think the will is determined (maybe from the beginning of time) but the individual is free because he is acting on his will. Well if the will is determined then how can you blame someone for doing what they do when they couldn't have done any differently. Wouldn't that mean a muderer murders because of factors he cannot control which seems little different from punishing a robot. It acts according to hardware and software, but is still not responsible for its actions. Are not the 'agent's conative faculties' through which the 'causal chain runs' also a product of what has come before and so the way we think determined.
I dunno, I seem to have come to the conclusion that we are determined (not that I like it) and I am trying to see what I have missed out.
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