(January 28, 2013 at 5:56 pm)Drich Wrote:(January 28, 2013 at 7:53 am)Brakeman Wrote: Well, he doesn't see the problem with his postulate. If god did give us morals to judge right and wrong and they were defective, we couldn't be held responsible when they failed, nor could we be held responsible in no longer following a defective indicator. Our morals must be perfect if they are god given. If they are not god given, then the bible lies and we are held to the brink of hell's eternal torture on the morals that we have to make up ourselves.
It's just a big fuzzy role of nonsense.
Or perhaps it is you who does not acknoweledge the ever declining nature of morality. Morality is on a downward sliding scale, and what passes as 'morality' today would not be considered 'moral' just a generation ago. ..
your confused. Or intentionally trying to confuse the subject. God did not give us the power to decide for our selves what is right and wrong in Genesis 3. He simply said we will know the difference between right and wrong "like gods" (Little g and plural) Meaning to include Angels and Demons. Demons also know the difference between right and wrong as per gen 3 but have no say in the identification or classification between right and wrong. Neither do any of us.
DODGE! or giving you the benefit of the doubt.. you are confused. I was referring to the "Magic gift" of a god quality sense of right and wrong as I quoted in Genesis 3.5. If our sense of right and wrong is degradable, it wouldn't be biblically god given. If we choose to "ignore" what our god given sense of right and wrong tells us, then that is an entirely different subject and that topic would be a dodge of the original conversation.
You postulated that god behavior could be good even when it disagrees with man's judgment of right or wrong (morality). I showed that this could not be the case because according to the bible, god gave us a god level sense of right and wrong.
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