(February 5, 2013 at 10:08 pm)Drich Wrote:(February 5, 2013 at 1:54 pm)Stimbo Wrote: You just demonstrated that you get what I'm saying. To borrow your analogy, the claim that you have a son can be proven by producing him (although we could then go into the whole area of how do you prove that he actually is your son, but that goes beyond the scope of the analogy). Were you to state that you have a son and that his existence is the proof of the claim, without presenting this proof, we would be in exactly the same situation as with the statement "God is proof of God".
In other words, can you present this God as you might your son?
You are confused as to who makes this claim. you are approaching me and appearently other christians to prove something we have no claim to. Our sole responsiablity to to point to where we found the proof we need to establish and maintain our relationships.
Remember God makes that claim. The responsiablity to proove what He has claimed is on Him.
(February 5, 2013 at 2:18 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I would agree with you that the physical presence of a god that was testable by science would indeed constitute proof of god. however as no proof of god exists I must conclude that neither does god.
First though you must thoroughly define god which no one has ever managed to pull off.
In order for you to come to this conclusion one must assume that the knoweledge of science is complete. In that nothing can exist outside the realm science currently presides over.
(February 5, 2013 at 3:39 pm)Tiberius Wrote: We've barely explored the galaxy with our telescopes.I may have to quote you here.
No wait, scratch that. We've barely explored our own solar system with our probes.
No wait, scratch that. We've barely explored our own planet with ourselves.
Only someone very uninformed about the state of science and exploration could make the idiotic statements you made in your OP.
Quote:...and what about all the people (myself included) who did ask, and for whom God did not show up?Did you Ask, Seek and Knock (A/S/K) as out lined in luke 11?
(February 5, 2013 at 3:54 pm)justin Wrote: And unicorns prove unicorns drich. All you're doing is assuming god exist. That's not proof. And what about amputees that pray for limbs? Or mental handicaps that pray to be relieved of their handicap? And i can prove i exist by evidence. There is no evidence for god. Let alone the god of you religion. Like christopher hitchens said "you have all your work still ahead of you".
We've barely explored the galaxy with our telescopes.
No wait, scratch that. We've barely explored our own solar system with our probes.
No wait, scratch that. We've barely explored our own planet with ourselves.
Only someone very uninformed about the state of science and exploration could make the idiotic statements you made in your OP.
-Tiberius
wow.....just fucking wow.
you sir are fucking retarded.
I`M NOT MAKING ANY CLAIMS OF A GOD YOU MINDLESS TWAT!
you just made my argument stronger dumbshit
