(November 2, 2009 at 1:35 pm)solarwave Wrote: You don't think Hitler was grossly immoral, you just don't agree with it. From his point on view it was ok and if there are no objective morals there is no difference between what you and he thinks.
I see where you are comming from with the whole no evidence thing, but morals tend to be on of the basic beliefs of people, along with the fact other people exist. There is no evidence to say that other people exist and there I am not dreaming, etc, but I have to assume its true because it seems so. Maybe the same can be said of morals. In the basic sense most people have the same sort of morals, that lying, thieft, muder are wrong, things like that.
I know thats not a wonderful arguement
Hitler was a good catholic following the normal anti semitic mores of the time.
But morality is generally down to what is acceptable in your society. In Islam this means covering up the women in a stupidly over the top way. Yet in naturist colonies people can be completely naked and completely moral.
Religion has suckered itself onto morals as its last desperate bid for relevancy.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.