RE: Collaboration with theists?
November 3, 2009 at 8:49 am
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2009 at 8:51 am by Pippy.)
Uh-oh, first person the bring up Hitler automatically loses the argument... Sorry Frodo 
I got the jist of your answer to the question posed, I think. You cannot say that any of the atheists you know/have met hold the "abolish religion" mentality to it's extreme, that these aforementioned "dogmatic atheists" may not be. I appreciate that, and although I think I might know some myself, these things are a matter of degrees and angles, so I might be wrong. Thank you SecularOne.
Hello also Saerules.
The (conceptual) devil on my shoulder adds that some theists and philosophers think very long and very hard about their belief.
I suppose it is just important to me to try to identify deity belief apart from the modern organized religious institutions, only for my own identity. I know there are others like me, but I will readily admit they are rare among the people I've seen. Did I say I talk too much, may be I talk too much about myself...
I also hear your answer to my query, that you do think "dogmatic atheists" (I'm not sure how apt that really is as a name) might exist. Thank you for that as well.
"If you meet the Buddha, kill the Buddha"
-Pip
Quote:What atheist is so stupid as to believe religion can be abolished?Hey again SO. I agree, that is one of the things that makes me cringe when I hear the "abolish religion" line, how oversimplified and unreal it is. And I would likely agree with the negative parts of religion, and the need to address them. And I think that those who want to abolish religion, if they exist, really have a problem with belief. If that is so, suddenly I am not able to be on their side of that argument, because I demand my right to believe and disbelieve what I will.
I got the jist of your answer to the question posed, I think. You cannot say that any of the atheists you know/have met hold the "abolish religion" mentality to it's extreme, that these aforementioned "dogmatic atheists" may not be. I appreciate that, and although I think I might know some myself, these things are a matter of degrees and angles, so I might be wrong. Thank you SecularOne.
Hello also Saerules.
Quote:They think of it along the same lines as "we need to abolish slavery".Yeah, I considered that, the allusion instead of the ideology. I think I know what you mean, and that I agree that some might mean that, yes.
Quote:abolishing 'non-thought'Hey, I'm on board for that one!
The (conceptual) devil on my shoulder adds that some theists and philosophers think very long and very hard about their belief.I suppose it is just important to me to try to identify deity belief apart from the modern organized religious institutions, only for my own identity. I know there are others like me, but I will readily admit they are rare among the people I've seen. Did I say I talk too much, may be I talk too much about myself...
I also hear your answer to my query, that you do think "dogmatic atheists" (I'm not sure how apt that really is as a name) might exist. Thank you for that as well.
"If you meet the Buddha, kill the Buddha"
-Pip
