RE: Religion and LGBT people
February 12, 2013 at 8:56 am
(This post was last modified: February 12, 2013 at 9:53 am by Gabriel Syme.)
(February 11, 2013 at 10:03 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:Quote:Billings is what the Chinese use to police their "one child" policy - it works..
Firstly, no.
Thirdly, you missed that whole 'schooling' thing.
Hi there
Uh, "yes":
Quote:Since the official introduction of the Billings Ovulation Method (BOM) into China by the Chinese Ministry of Health in 1995, the method has been distributed to almost every corner of China, including the industrial and agricultural areas and the minority regions. Chinese women of different strata and ethnic groups readily understand the meaning of the mucus patterns described in the Billings books and all of them accept the method. After teaching, most subjects are able to recognize the peak symptom from the first cycle and the rest from the second cycle, except in a few (around 1%) having anovulatory cycles as confirmed by plasma hormonal assay.
http://www.woomb.org/bom/trials/chinaLaunching.html
You seem to live in a fantasy world. You deny reality, even when presented with clear, impartial evidence.
Your idea of debating is to close your eyes and desperately repeat "no, no, no" and do your best to ignore anything presented to you, which doesnt conform to your existing ideas.
You desperately attempt to ridicule your opponent, in lieu of having any points to make.
You prefer ignorance to enlightenment.
Regards
GS
(February 11, 2013 at 11:03 pm)Darkstar Wrote: How are homosexuality and AIDS related?
Hey,
HIV in the west is almost exclusively concentrated among homosexual men. This is a fact and is undeniable. Please dont fall into the trap of so many posters here of thinking that denying reality constitutes making a point lol
(February 11, 2013 at 11:03 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Is there somehow more chance of getting AIDS from anal?
Yes.
The anus is not a sexual orifice. It is a disposal chute for shit.
It is not intended to be penetrated by a penis, or any object. It is unable to self-lubricate itself (like a vagina can) and, unlike vaginas, its delicate tissue is not robust enough to stand up to the rigour of penetration.
This often causes cuts and tears to the tissue, exposing the bloodstream, which obivously increaes the risk factor by an order of magnitude.
Also, ejaculating inside someones anus means semen is deep inside their body, among tissue-types it was not intended to see, (intestines etc) where it can be easily absorbed, which also increases the risk.
All thsi is borne out by the figures showing how massively affected gay men are by HIV.
Think about it - is it really a surprise to you that mis-using your body can result in health defects?
When does the mis-use of something ever result in a good outcome?
(February 11, 2013 at 11:03 pm)Darkstar Wrote: I also notice you only speak of homosexual men...how much do you want to bet lesbians don't get AIDS so easily?
That is true, lesbians lack the physical characteristics to be as efficient spreaders of HIV as gay men are. However, compared with heterosexual women, they do face a panoply of exaggerated health risks:
Quote:Bacterial vaginosis, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C, heavy cigarette smoking, alcohol abuse, intravenous drug use, and prostitution were present in much higher proportions among female homosexual practitioners.(ref 1) Intravenous drug abuse was nearly six times as common in this group.(ref 2)In one study of women who had sex only with women in the prior 12 months, 30 percent had bacterial vaginosis.(ref 3) Bacterial vaginosis is associated with higher risk for pelvic inflammatory disease and other sexually transmitted infections.(ref 4)
References:
1- Ibid., p. 347, Table 1; Susan D. Cochran, et al., "Cancer- Related Risk Indicators and Preventive Screening Behaviors Among Lesbians and Bisexual Women," American Journal of Public Health, 91(4): 591-597 (April 2001); Juliet Richters, Sara Lubowitz, et al., "HIV risks among women in contact with Sydney's gay and lesbian community," Venereology, 11(3): 35-38 (1998); Juliet Richters, Sarah Bergin, et al., "Women in Contact with the Gay and Lesbian Community: Sydney Women and Sexual Health Survey 1996 and 1998," National Centre in HIV Social Research, University of New South Wales, 1999.
2- Fethers, et al., p. 347 and Table 1.
3- Barbara Berger, Shelley Kolton, et al., "Bacterial vaginosis in lesbians: a sexually transmitted disease," Clinical Infectious Diseases, 21: 1402-1405 (1995).
4- E. H. Koumans, et al., "Preventing adverse sequelae of Bacterial Vaginosis: a Public Health Program and Research Agenda," Sexually Transmitted Diseases, 28(5): 292-297 (May 2001); R. L. Sweet, "Gynecologic Conditions and Bacterial Vaginosis: Implications for the Non-Pregnant Patient," Infectious Diseases in Obstetrics and Gynecology, 8(3): 184-190 (2000).
It is notiously difficult to examine lesbians health in some respects, because the majority of them also have sex with men, including with homosexual men - meaning it is hard to even establish who or what constitutes a lesbian.
Quote:Not only did lesbians commonly have sex with men, but with lots of men. They were 4.5 times as likely as exclusively heterosexual controls to have had more than 50 lifetime male sex partners. Consequently, the lesbians' median number of male partners was twice that of exclusively heterosexual women. Lesbians were three to four times more likely than heterosexual women to have sex with men who were high-risk for HIV disease-homosexual, bisexual, or IV drug-abusing men.
All from ref 1 above (ibid etc).
Homosexuality is not a healthy business my friend.
Ciao
GS
(February 11, 2013 at 11:22 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Depends on your wording. Sex is only allowed if it is procreative, though that technically is not the only purpose.
What I posted was correct. Note that sex is not guaranteed to be procreative, it only has the possiblity to be so. From your own post:
Quote:The Catholic Church teaches that the purpose of sex is both unitive and procreative
Thats what I said - end of story.
(February 11, 2013 at 11:22 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Now you're starting to sound like this guy
What I posted was correct.
Billings NFP is 99% effective, the exact same as artificial contraception.
Quote:success rate 99%
http://www.woomb.org/bom/trials/chinaLaunching.html