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If ignorance is bliss...
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RE: If ignorance is bliss...
(February 13, 2013 at 2:11 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
(February 12, 2013 at 8:35 pm)Ryantology Wrote: That's funny, I thought it was the Christian idea that mankind is flawed, evil, and degenerate, and can never be good unless they ask for God's help (and actually receive it). I thought Christians can't wait for the world to end, so that they can sit up in Heaven and watch the non-believers get their just desserts.

I don't know how that is considered 'positive'. To me, Christianity sounds like a depressing, misanthropic death cult.

I think you have said, as has everyone else that I've asked recently, that you agreed that humans are flawed.
The differences in our world views, are that mine is positive, having a belief that human flaws are overcome, and yours are negative, as you just put up with the flaws.

You seem to be forgetting that atheism is not linked to a belief that humans are flawed. (Though, of course, everyone I know will admit that they are, including yourself.) Atheism also sin't linked to a belief that humans must simply "put up with" our flaws.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I very much think that human flaws are capable of being overcome. You don't need a god to think that. Prisoners are capable of reform. Science, art, and organized nations built by human determination and discipline have vastly improved our lives for the better. I personally am no longer on depression medication (a vestige from my childhood, incidentally, before I was an atheist), and I'm doing just fine.

(February 13, 2013 at 2:11 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Not feelings. Plain logic. It applies to everyone without real reason to be positive. Theist and atheist.

This is a word salad. But it's becoming quite obvious; In attempting to tell us about atheists, you're only telling us about yourself.
What falls away is always, and is near.

Also, I am not pretending to be female, this profile picture is my wonderful girlfriend. XD
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Messages In This Thread
If ignorance is bliss... - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 12, 2013 at 3:43 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by festive1 - February 12, 2013 at 3:48 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by John V - February 12, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by festive1 - February 12, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by John V - February 12, 2013 at 6:12 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Simon Moon - February 12, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by John V - February 12, 2013 at 6:37 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by festive1 - February 12, 2013 at 8:16 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by rexbeccarox - February 12, 2013 at 8:27 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Simon Moon - February 12, 2013 at 8:18 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Nine - February 12, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Baalzebutt - February 12, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Zone - February 12, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Bara - February 12, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by CleanShavenJesus - February 12, 2013 at 5:38 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 12, 2013 at 5:48 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Cyberman - February 12, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 5:36 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Cyberman - February 13, 2013 at 8:34 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Creed of Heresy - February 12, 2013 at 11:02 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Aegrus - February 13, 2013 at 2:05 am
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by naimless - February 12, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by fr0d0 - February 12, 2013 at 6:29 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Ryantology - February 12, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Aegrus - February 12, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by BeefiestName - February 12, 2013 at 8:46 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Ryantology - February 12, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Creed of Heresy - February 12, 2013 at 11:57 pm
Re: RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by fr0d0 - February 13, 2013 at 2:11 am
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Aegrus - February 13, 2013 at 2:18 am
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Ryantology - February 13, 2013 at 2:36 am
Re: RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by fr0d0 - February 13, 2013 at 2:42 am
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Cato - February 13, 2013 at 3:22 am
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Ryantology - February 13, 2013 at 3:39 am
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 10:13 am
Re: RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by fr0d0 - February 13, 2013 at 8:07 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Ryantology - February 14, 2013 at 12:16 am
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Zone - February 15, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by PyroManiac - February 21, 2013 at 11:34 am

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