RE: If ignorance is bliss...
February 13, 2013 at 2:18 am
(This post was last modified: February 13, 2013 at 2:26 am by Aegrus.)
(February 13, 2013 at 2:11 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(February 12, 2013 at 8:35 pm)Ryantology Wrote: That's funny, I thought it was the Christian idea that mankind is flawed, evil, and degenerate, and can never be good unless they ask for God's help (and actually receive it). I thought Christians can't wait for the world to end, so that they can sit up in Heaven and watch the non-believers get their just desserts.
I don't know how that is considered 'positive'. To me, Christianity sounds like a depressing, misanthropic death cult.
I think you have said, as has everyone else that I've asked recently, that you agreed that humans are flawed.
The differences in our world views, are that mine is positive, having a belief that human flaws are overcome, and yours are negative, as you just put up with the flaws.
You seem to be forgetting that atheism is not linked to a belief that humans are flawed. (Though, of course, everyone I know will admit that they are, including yourself.) Atheism also sin't linked to a belief that humans must simply "put up with" our flaws.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I very much think that human flaws are capable of being overcome. You don't need a god to think that. Prisoners are capable of reform. Science, art, and organized nations built by human determination and discipline have vastly improved our lives for the better. I personally am no longer on depression medication (a vestige from my childhood, incidentally, before I was an atheist), and I'm doing just fine.
(February 13, 2013 at 2:11 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Not feelings. Plain logic. It applies to everyone without real reason to be positive. Theist and atheist.
This is a word salad. But it's becoming quite obvious; In attempting to tell us about atheists, you're only telling us about yourself.
What falls away is always, and is near.
Also, I am not pretending to be female, this profile picture is my wonderful girlfriend. XD