RE: Determinism.....
November 5, 2009 at 6:58 pm
(This post was last modified: November 5, 2009 at 7:05 pm by Violet.)
Quote:But how do you know what someone deserves? For me I say murder is wrong not killing. A war hero only deserves a medal if it was justified killing or because it is set out in law that he must be given a medal. If it is because of law it isn't fairness, its just following a cold hard law. If it is because he was a 'good' hero and the killings were justifed then in comes morality to have to explain it.There is no objective 'they deserve ___'... that base must be established by the individual. Well, one would hope that you are giving the war hero a medal for either honorable conduct, bravery, excellent performance, or other such quality

Giving a soldier a medal because he killed people isn't moral by my standards... but it is justifiable by all sorts of things. The soldier could deserve the medal just as a notation of his services, for his 'headcount', for his reckless bravery in a situation, for stealing obtaining information that won the war.... all sorts of things can justify his killing (see murdering?) of the enemy soldiers. But does that make murder 'right'?
I could just as easily justify rape. For my 'impressive show of dominance', my ability to make another bend to my will, because it was an act willed by god, because I've needed 'release' for years, etc. Tell me now... does that make rape 'right'? Was it fair to the victim to commit rape?
Not at all. So you see the difference between having a reason for doing something... and that something being 'right'? Morals ≠ justifications... and both are completely subjective. Justice is built atop justifications... which are simply reasons. Morals are an established sense of 'good' and 'bad' (right and wrong, good and evil). Fairness is getting what one 'deserves'... which is built atop morals and justifications (and possibly also soundness [see logic], I haven't concluded anything on such).
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day