(February 17, 2013 at 3:31 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: I have been on many boards in the past where many theists vehemently defended the hypothesis that the universe came into existence uncaused out of nothing and they offer quantum mechanics as evidence. If that isn't the case any more that's a step in the right direction. universes definitely exist, it's nothing more than an untested hypothesis.
That's right - theists do that. Not atheists.
(February 17, 2013 at 3:31 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: Yes I am and I think its a weak counter argument. But by all means give it your best shot.
Why do you consider it a weak argument then?
(February 17, 2013 at 3:31 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: I don't know what mythology you're referring too, I am a philosophical theist. Yes I am aware the demarcation between what is 'supernatural' and what is natural is at best a moving target. Essentially the supernatural is something that can't happen unless it does happen in which case it is natural whatever that means.
If you believe that, then your position on god should be "he can't exist unless he can be shown to exist in which case he is not god but simply an advanced entity".