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The purpose of god
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RE: The purpose of god
(February 18, 2013 at 4:15 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Jesus told the woman at the well to go sin no more. Why? ...if she no longer had any responsibility and could now sin freely?

So what are sins here? violations against God or violations against other people? What does absolute justice dictate?

There can be nothing harder than reconciling ones guilt. If you were Dahmer, how would you manage that? At what point would you feel that you deserved to receive pardon? That's what he would have to have done right? To be absolved from any guilt?

Rebellion against God is rebellion against good itself. I don't know anything about Dahmer. Perhaps he liked eating people. Not something society condones. Some people equate eating animals to eating people.

Obviously, if it is sins against god, all he has to do is accept jesus.

If it is sins against man, he must face the societal consequences of his actions. Dahmers actions were so extreme that there is no hope of redemption within society.

Justice comes from the society one lives in. If justice were absolute, it would be universal and the Taliban would not be shooting young girls in the face for the crime of going to school.

If we leave justice to god, we have empty prisons. But the fact is, our justice comes from an EVOLVED need within the human species to control our own behavior for survival of ourselves and our society alike. When we cannot control our own behavior, society controls it for us. Though not perfect in execution, our system does provide some basis for our society to continue on a somewhat civil basis.

Your statement assumes that Dahmer actually experienced guilt. All available evidence points to Dahmer having no sense of guilt whatsoever. Therefore, he has nothing be pardoned for, nothing to be absolved from.

I guess the point I am trying to make is that there is simply no way to justify anything like a just god when a mass murderer goes to heaven and a good person who does not believe goes to hell. That is anything but justice.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." -Einstein
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The purpose of god - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 2:17 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 2:37 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 3:08 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by Question Mark - February 18, 2013 at 2:50 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 18, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 2:45 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by Zone - February 18, 2013 at 2:49 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by EGross - February 18, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by EGross - February 18, 2013 at 3:15 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 3:21 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 4:47 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by EGross - February 18, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 7:15 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by Zone - February 18, 2013 at 6:57 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 7:10 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: The purpose of god - by Baalzebutt - February 18, 2013 at 7:32 pm

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