RE: Hi!
February 18, 2013 at 8:20 pm
(This post was last modified: February 18, 2013 at 8:27 pm by Mystical.)
Hello and Welcome
Atheism is new to me, so I don't really have a grasp on what it is or what it means for my life quite yet. I just know me, and I know that I can no longer justify believing in the god of the bible, or any god for that matter. So I am searching for what there is proof of. Without bias, I will read anything and everything so long as it has a legitimate claim--no matter the ramifications. I used to believe that god is Truth. Now I know, that without proof for god I cannot justify believing he is the truth. So I will seek it through the evidence, and see where that leads me.
As for dealing with the death of a loved one.. I'm sorry you lost your grandma, I'd be overwhelmingly sad too.
As I have yet to face a family members' death as an athiest, I have no idea how that would go! I do know that my own grandparents committed suicide when I was little, and as a believer I was horrified that they would be in hell for eternity after that. Now that my beliefs have changed on the matter, I am less horrified by the whole situation. I don't regularly obsess about my family member's spiritual well being anymore which has helped me a lot to focus on mine. I'm not sure if there is a god, or a spirit. But I'm going to assume there isn't until I find reason to believe that there is. For me, man-written words are not reason to believe anymore. With regards to my family: I enjoy them when I'm with them, and I'm not so victimized with worry about where we go when we die and what will happen to them.
I actually feel better about death, now. Oddly enough.
Welcome to the forums and good luck in whatever you're searching for Don't mind the crabby athiests, they just deal with a Lot of self righteous zealots. 
Atheism is new to me, so I don't really have a grasp on what it is or what it means for my life quite yet. I just know me, and I know that I can no longer justify believing in the god of the bible, or any god for that matter. So I am searching for what there is proof of. Without bias, I will read anything and everything so long as it has a legitimate claim--no matter the ramifications. I used to believe that god is Truth. Now I know, that without proof for god I cannot justify believing he is the truth. So I will seek it through the evidence, and see where that leads me.
As for dealing with the death of a loved one.. I'm sorry you lost your grandma, I'd be overwhelmingly sad too.
As I have yet to face a family members' death as an athiest, I have no idea how that would go! I do know that my own grandparents committed suicide when I was little, and as a believer I was horrified that they would be in hell for eternity after that. Now that my beliefs have changed on the matter, I am less horrified by the whole situation. I don't regularly obsess about my family member's spiritual well being anymore which has helped me a lot to focus on mine. I'm not sure if there is a god, or a spirit. But I'm going to assume there isn't until I find reason to believe that there is. For me, man-written words are not reason to believe anymore. With regards to my family: I enjoy them when I'm with them, and I'm not so victimized with worry about where we go when we die and what will happen to them.
I actually feel better about death, now. Oddly enough.
Welcome to the forums and good luck in whatever you're searching for
Don't mind the crabby athiests, they just deal with a Lot of self righteous zealots.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
