The Problem with the Gospels

[Edwardo Piet]

No you didn't! Haha! Meh - existence... same thing

No... evidence and existence are two different things obviously.

WHAT??? Oh thanks. Nice of you guys to tell me.

I thought I did tell you on MSN once? Apologies if I didn't. Do you want to do it again if Adrian will let us?

There was nothing to reply to. You repeated an earlier question.

It was specifically just to ask for clarification that I understood your point. I wanted a response.

That didn't need an answer. I had no reason to answer.

See right above. You may have not thought you needed a reason, but I thought you did... hence my asking for clarification. And since it was your turn to respond since I'd posted last... if you're not going to reply then what am I supposed to do? I was waiting... and I told you that I was waiting too.

I asked you twice to take something to the evidence thread, but you didn't do it.

And as I'd said and am still saying: It was your turn.

I agree it's a contradiction. hence my reply.

Huh?

You agree that you contradicted yourself... and yet you think that when you replied by telling me that I simply was 'not making sense'... you think that that reply of yours actually makes any sense?

Okay so you 1. Agree you contradicted yourself 2. Simply asserted that I am not making sense.

I will respond with that.... I 1. pointed out that you contradicted yourself... you agreed to that. 2. You completely failed to elucidate how I am not making any sense... especially when you agreed with my point apparently! In which case... if you agree with my point (that you contradicted yourself...) then how am I not making sense?

No it doesn't. And I'll discuss this no further for reasons already stated.

That's another contradiction from you...sorry!

You agree that you contradicted yourself when you say you don't think in terms of His existence and yet He 'just is'. Because he can't 'be' if he doesn't exist... for there is no he to 'be'. Okay... you agreed with me that you contradicted yourself there... and then you say that saying that God doesn't exist does not mean that there is no God? You contradict yourself again!

Again???

I say "again" because you failed to respond to my last post in the debate and yet were at the same time telling me to respond. It was your turn. I wasn't meant to be debating myself!

I can say we will learn nothing if we've discussed this before and you ask the same question again. If we follow the same route chances are the same outcome will occur. We have to approach the problem differently.

How else do you suggest we approach it?

You're not listening to me. I'm asking you to think about it a bit rather than have me drip feed you. You're not stupid, work it out.

Yes, I'm not stupid. And that's exactly why I am pointing out that you are contradicted yourself! So if you do indeed have a point perhaps you could provide better clarity than attempting to explain yourself and yet contradicting yourself in the process! I wouldn't mind, you are trying your best... but then after you agree that you've contradicted yourself... you then change your mind again and contradict your admittance to your own contradiction! It's way too confusing to discuss that way!

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