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what being apart from the law means.
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RE: what being apart from the law means.
(February 25, 2013 at 6:18 pm)Ryantology Wrote: I think the more pertinent question is "why couldn't God find someplace for the Jews to become a great nation that didn't involve slaughtering thousands of their neighbors?" There were enormous parts of the world which were almost entirely uninhabited and remained so until a few centuries ago.
Why did the orginal colonists decided to settle North America, Central, South America, Australia, The South Pacific Islands? Any and All Inhabitable lands with an indigious people that have been taken once they saw it was already occupied? Because all of the best places already have people living there. Otherwise the land would be known as a desert.

Quote:Equating children with animals?
Where children sacerficed for the forgivness of sin? animals were.

Quote:Because the almighty creator of everything could not have possibly found a faster, more efficient way of doing that. I see no reason to even require a sacrifice. It's arbitrary and pointless.
So on your authority, there would be no blood shed, But on God's (The Creator of Everything) Authority there is. The question is why does your 'authority' or why should your authority superceed God's?

Quote:It's like, I wanna forgive you, but I can't do that until people die.
No. Sin=Death. all who sin owe a death. only Christ can die for another.

Quote:I love how, on one hand, apologists will sequester God in the depths of metaphysics so that science can never examine (and disprove) his existence, but when this God influences the physical world, he can't do anything better than humans do. He can influence the Israelites to go psycho on their neighbors, but it is apparently far beyond his talents to convince these neighbors to ally and find common cause.
Big Grin
So what of free will?

Quote:It's funny that you insist we can't judge God by human standards, yet here you are basically saying "well, we do it this way, why is it wrong for God to do it this way"? Once more, you are betraying the impotence (and pointlessness) of the God you worship. He can't do it any better than we do it ourselves.
Why would He do anything differently? As I keep pointing out to you all, God is the God of the natural world. Why would He automatically be resigned to doing things outside the natural order of things?(when He put the Natural order of things in motion) You are confusing your idea of God (one that I might point out even in your own mind, does not work.) For the God protrayed in the Bible.

The VAST Majority of God's will is accomplished through what most of you would dismiss as common place.

(February 25, 2013 at 6:46 pm)Question Mark Wrote: I should provide the evidence for you to show me? If only the world worked like that, I could finally convince people of the little girl who lives in my fire place.

If a man says he is looking for a dog, is it wrong to ask what the dog he is looking for looks like? Or are those who are helping the man look for the dog supposed to bring him every random dog that can be found till he/you approve of the dog before you?

Sounds like a fools errand to me. For if YOU Do Not Know What You Are Looking For How Am I Expected to Help You find It? How Will You Know If The Dog/Proof Your Looking For Is Not Already Before You? (If you don't know what proof is.)

Will you rely on your peers to tell you what to think? Or can you tell me what you believe Proof to be?
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what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 18, 2013 at 1:44 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 18, 2013 at 1:58 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 18, 2013 at 5:12 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 18, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 19, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 19, 2013 at 6:57 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by John V - February 19, 2013 at 7:15 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 19, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Minimalist - February 19, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 19, 2013 at 11:09 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by EGross - February 20, 2013 at 6:04 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 20, 2013 at 10:00 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Cato - February 20, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by EGross - February 20, 2013 at 10:46 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 20, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Cinjin - February 20, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Gilgamesh - February 22, 2013 at 11:26 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 20, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 21, 2013 at 12:00 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by catfish - February 21, 2013 at 8:37 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 21, 2013 at 10:43 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by catfish - February 21, 2013 at 11:08 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2013 at 12:36 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 22, 2013 at 10:57 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ben Davis - February 22, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 22, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 22, 2013 at 6:50 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 22, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 22, 2013 at 7:35 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 22, 2013 at 10:39 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 22, 2013 at 11:18 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 11:30 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 23, 2013 at 12:49 am
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RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 23, 2013 at 2:04 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 22, 2013 at 11:53 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 7:43 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 7:49 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 7:59 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 22, 2013 at 11:22 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 22, 2013 at 11:27 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 22, 2013 at 11:33 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 11:35 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 22, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 23, 2013 at 9:08 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 24, 2013 at 3:00 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 24, 2013 at 12:11 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 25, 2013 at 12:20 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 25, 2013 at 3:41 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Cato - February 25, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Anomalocaris - February 25, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 25, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Anomalocaris - February 25, 2013 at 7:55 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Esquilax - February 25, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 23, 2013 at 1:40 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 23, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 23, 2013 at 2:14 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 23, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 23, 2013 at 11:49 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 24, 2013 at 11:01 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2013 at 11:41 am
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RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 24, 2013 at 1:56 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Esquilax - February 24, 2013 at 9:56 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Cinjin - February 24, 2013 at 7:48 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 24, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 25, 2013 at 9:53 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 25, 2013 at 12:28 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 25, 2013 at 4:10 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 25, 2013 at 6:18 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 25, 2013 at 9:08 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 26, 2013 at 12:07 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by ThomM - February 26, 2013 at 12:27 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 26, 2013 at 9:01 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 2:25 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Cato - February 27, 2013 at 12:48 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by catfish - February 25, 2013 at 8:19 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 25, 2013 at 6:46 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 25, 2013 at 6:59 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 25, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by The Grand Nudger - February 24, 2013 at 12:20 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 25, 2013 at 8:14 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by catfish - February 25, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 26, 2013 at 8:54 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 26, 2013 at 10:01 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 26, 2013 at 11:00 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 12:24 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 12:31 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 12:44 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 12:27 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 27, 2013 at 2:05 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 3:27 pm
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RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 11:30 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 12:39 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Esquilax - March 1, 2013 at 2:43 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 1:19 pm
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RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Esquilax - February 27, 2013 at 11:45 pm
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RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 26, 2013 at 11:43 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 26, 2013 at 11:51 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Ryantology - February 27, 2013 at 12:15 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 26, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 12:27 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 12:50 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 8:44 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 12:30 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 1:00 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 1:39 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 3:01 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 27, 2013 at 9:39 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 9:41 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 27, 2013 at 12:31 pm
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RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 6:06 pm
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RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 27, 2013 at 8:52 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Esquilax - February 27, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Neo-Scholastic - February 28, 2013 at 9:56 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Esquilax - February 28, 2013 at 12:03 pm
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by FallentoReason - February 28, 2013 at 2:37 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 12:17 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 1:47 am
RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 1:56 am
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RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 2:55 pm
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RE: what being apart from the law means. - by Losty - August 23, 2014 at 2:14 pm
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