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What is a proof?
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RE: What is a proof?
(March 4, 2013 at 7:30 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I see from other threads that you are usually try to refute a religion by contradictions you find in it.

Does a contradiction means that it is not from God?

Yes. Otherwise it is a flawed message since the requirement of a perfect being is that his communications be perfect. And if the human channel was flawed, then the entire message is discarded.

If my grandchild told me that "Mommy said she is going to the moon and will be back in 20 minutes", I would discount the entire message and try to call his mother to confirm. And with the lack of any real prophets these days (how convenient), nobody can confirm anything from any religion that has someone, at the beginning, claiming that God told them these things, and then, this chatty God, just clamped shut and went to Disneyland.

What is a Paradox

Which is not the same as a contradiction.

A paradox: In Islam, after a person dies, and he goes to Jahannam, he will eat bitter plants. Obviously the dead have no need for food, so the paradox is assuming that these plants are real and it is not a metaphor.

It is a contadiction to believe in a good and loving God when he makes a Hell where only 1% of His believers will escape it, and then make it so well organized in 7 levels, each level for different kinds of people, a variety of demons, eternal fire, smoke, torture, which really is more asscoiated with the Marquis De Sade then a Good deity.

Any religion that has a hell, makes it to control the ignorant. The more complex the hell, the more controlling the religion. Mohammend probably stole that idea from the Church, and it served him well. But the problem with having a religion to subdue freedom is that, in the end, freedom wins.
“I've done everything the Bible says — even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!"— Ned Flanders
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What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 2, 2013 at 2:05 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 2, 2013 at 2:20 am
RE: What is a proof? - by justin - March 2, 2013 at 2:23 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 2, 2013 at 2:28 am
RE: What is a proof? - by justin - March 2, 2013 at 2:42 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 2, 2013 at 3:05 am
RE: What is a proof? - by justin - March 2, 2013 at 3:13 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 2, 2013 at 3:29 am
RE: What is a proof? - by justin - March 2, 2013 at 3:44 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Kayenneh - March 2, 2013 at 3:34 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 2, 2013 at 5:46 am
RE: What is a proof? - by justin - March 2, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by Angrboda - March 2, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by downbeatplumb - March 2, 2013 at 5:50 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Question Mark - March 2, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by paulpablo - March 2, 2013 at 5:06 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 4, 2013 at 2:21 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Phish - March 2, 2013 at 5:41 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx - March 4, 2013 at 3:50 am
RE: What is a proof? - by xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx - March 4, 2013 at 11:23 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 4, 2013 at 7:30 am
RE: What is a proof? - by EGross - March 4, 2013 at 7:38 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Cyberman - March 4, 2013 at 8:29 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 5, 2013 at 3:28 am
RE: What is a proof? - by MysticKnight - March 5, 2013 at 4:12 am
RE: What is a proof? - by EGross - March 5, 2013 at 4:21 am
RE: What is a proof? - by EGross - March 4, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: What is a proof? - by LastPoet - March 4, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: What is a proof? - by EGross - March 4, 2013 at 11:48 am
RE: What is a proof? - by MysticKnight - March 5, 2013 at 4:28 am
RE: What is a proof? - by downbeatplumb - March 12, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by EGross - March 5, 2013 at 6:38 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 5, 2013 at 7:42 am
RE: What is a proof? - by EGross - March 5, 2013 at 4:22 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 6, 2013 at 1:53 am
RE: What is a proof? - by KichigaiNeko - March 5, 2013 at 10:18 am
RE: What is a proof? - by justin - March 5, 2013 at 10:26 am
RE: What is a proof? - by KichigaiNeko - March 5, 2013 at 10:29 am
RE: What is a proof? - by justin - March 5, 2013 at 10:35 am
RE: What is a proof? - by KichigaiNeko - March 5, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: What is a proof? - by justin - March 5, 2013 at 11:01 am
RE: What is a proof? - by KichigaiNeko - March 5, 2013 at 11:09 am
RE: What is a proof? - by justin - March 5, 2013 at 12:26 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by KichigaiNeko - March 5, 2013 at 12:29 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by justin - March 5, 2013 at 12:53 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 6:23 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by Cyberman - March 5, 2013 at 10:55 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 11:19 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by Cyberman - March 6, 2013 at 12:24 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Angrboda - March 11, 2013 at 3:54 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 11, 2013 at 4:18 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 11, 2013 at 2:18 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Cyberman - March 11, 2013 at 2:25 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 11, 2013 at 3:08 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 12, 2013 at 1:53 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Something completely different - March 12, 2013 at 2:15 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 12, 2013 at 3:40 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Something completely different - March 12, 2013 at 3:50 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 12, 2013 at 4:21 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Something completely different - March 12, 2013 at 4:39 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 12, 2013 at 6:26 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Something completely different - March 12, 2013 at 6:29 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Cyberman - March 12, 2013 at 2:50 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by KichigaiNeko - March 12, 2013 at 6:17 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Something completely different - March 12, 2013 at 6:24 am
RE: What is a proof? - by KichigaiNeko - March 12, 2013 at 6:27 am
RE: What is a proof? - by KichigaiNeko - March 12, 2013 at 6:34 am
RE: What is a proof? - by ManMachine - March 12, 2013 at 9:05 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 13, 2013 at 1:41 am
RE: What is a proof? - by ManMachine - March 13, 2013 at 10:19 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Muslim Scholar - March 16, 2013 at 8:11 am
RE: What is a proof? - by ManMachine - March 16, 2013 at 10:00 am
RE: What is a proof? - by Angrboda - March 16, 2013 at 1:02 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by Angrboda - March 13, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 2:28 pm
RE: What is a proof? - by MysticKnight - March 17, 2013 at 11:33 am
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