(March 5, 2013 at 9:08 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Why not link to it?
Because it is in 'your' thread, in reply to what you wrote - and therefore your responsibility to read.
(March 5, 2013 at 9:08 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I have been called an idiot 4 or 5 times and still havn't seen any argument! My feelings are hurting really bad.
Boohoo.
(March 5, 2013 at 9:08 pm)jstrodel Wrote: EDIT: What is with the attitude?
Its brought on by people who spew nonsensical arguments, have them refuted and then pretend as if they were never replied to in the first place.
(March 5, 2013 at 9:08 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Do you really think that the concept of value is self evidently reducible to sentience or biological complexity or some other made up formula
No, it is reducible to rationality and self-consciousness.
(March 5, 2013 at 9:08 pm)jstrodel Wrote: (of course deers are sentient, beers are bigger than people, rocks are stronger and last longer than people, starfish are just more cool!).
None of which are the basis of value.
(March 5, 2013 at 9:08 pm)jstrodel Wrote: If you do, I think you are a small person, like a shopkeeper who, upon trying to think about philosophical things, simply remembers the things that he was taught growing up and repeats them, his certainty secured by his emotional connection to what is familiar. He calls this process "logic". Maybe it is. I think it is a wonderful thing that there are shopkeepers in the world and simple people deserve respect, but this is really not the way to do philosophy.
That's ironic, since I've never been taught any of the arguments I make here and you are the one repeating the tired old apologetic bullshit.