(March 6, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Chuck Wrote:(March 6, 2013 at 7:44 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Yeah, I understand that position as well, and recognize that absent consciousness, mathematical concepts lose meaning, whether they exist independently or not.
Interesting question, and not quite as simple as it appears on the surface.
Really? wake up!
Is universal gravitational constant discovered or invented, how about speed of light? Planck constant? Discovered or invented? Elementary charge?
You're conflating mathematics and physics. We're discussing the nature of the ration of diameter to circumference in a perfect circle. Are perfect circles found in nature? I'm not aware of any, though I do not necessarily doubt they exist. Does the concept of a perfect circle hold any meaning absent a consciousness capable of contemplating one? I'm not certain. How can you be?