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Daystar
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RE: Daystar
(November 17, 2008 at 12:29 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: Actually, that has been demonstrated before, religion fades away when knowledge is gained. It is not so much the intention of science but definitely a side effect. But usually its get substituted by some other religion or redefining their gods.

Perhaps it isn't that way at all. Perhaps there is only a replacement. They just trade places. I know that in the past the greatest minds in science have been the greatest minds in theology. Of course at that time there wasn't a supposed conflict and the tradition was religion.

Now, though, 'science' is the alternative. Knowledge gained? I don't think so. The modern science minded critic of the Bible will assume that primitive people had a superstitious attachment to their idols while at the same time having a more similar attachment to their own automobile. You can't look at things like science and religion as being anything but what they are, but you can look how people use and abuse these abstract attachments to those things. I call it religious thought. Science can't be religious in nature, the modern atheist would say, because it has no deity. Forget that they don't bother to grasp even the in the most basis sense, what that means and concentrate on how, in the past the abuse of God, the Bible and religion was brought about through man's knowledge of how to abuse these things in order to get what they wanted - which is nothing more than power - and had nothing to do with God, the Bible and religion in any real sense.

People. They think their music is the best and will fight for it, their freedom is more important than their life and will kill and die for it. Art, music, sports, science, fashion can all be used in the same sort of way.

Quote:Daystar - They don't see this as religious in nature, which scares the hell out of me because if you think about it science today is a far greater potential danger than religion ever was. Blind to its destructive potential and hungry for its day in the sun. Which, I believe it will and should have, but warn against its blind obedience.

leo-rcc - Obeying who or what? Science? Science doesn't dictate.

Obeying that blind human attachment. Religious thought.
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Daystar - by lukec - November 16, 2008 at 9:34 pm
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - November 16, 2008 at 11:34 pm
RE: Daystar - by Kyuuketsuki - November 17, 2008 at 10:14 am
RE: Daystar - by Tiberius - November 17, 2008 at 12:04 am
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - November 17, 2008 at 11:09 am
RE: Daystar - by lukec - November 17, 2008 at 7:09 pm
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - November 18, 2008 at 5:04 pm
RE: Daystar - by lukec - November 18, 2008 at 10:12 pm
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - November 19, 2008 at 3:00 pm
RE: Daystar - by lukec - November 19, 2008 at 4:17 pm
RE: Daystar - by Kyuuketsuki - November 18, 2008 at 6:34 am
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - November 18, 2008 at 11:12 am
RE: Daystar - by lukec - November 18, 2008 at 4:47 pm
RE: Daystar - by Kyuuketsuki - November 19, 2008 at 4:58 am
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - November 19, 2008 at 12:16 pm
RE: Daystar - by Kyuuketsuki - November 19, 2008 at 5:02 pm
RE: Daystar - by lukec - November 17, 2008 at 12:20 am
RE: Daystar - by Gregori - November 17, 2008 at 9:14 am
RE: Daystar - by CoxRox - November 17, 2008 at 10:20 am
RE: Daystar - by leo-rcc - November 17, 2008 at 12:29 pm
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - November 17, 2008 at 3:46 pm
RE: Daystar - by Edwardo Piet - November 17, 2008 at 9:27 pm
RE: Daystar - by Edwardo Piet - November 19, 2008 at 12:21 pm
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - November 19, 2008 at 2:29 pm
RE: Daystar - by Edwardo Piet - November 19, 2008 at 2:57 pm
RE: Daystar - by lukec - November 19, 2008 at 5:26 pm
RE: Daystar - by Kyuuketsuki - November 20, 2008 at 5:39 am
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - November 20, 2008 at 10:17 am
RE: Daystar - by Edwardo Piet - November 22, 2008 at 1:07 am
RE: Daystar - by bozo - November 20, 2008 at 3:31 pm
RE: Daystar - by Kyuuketsuki - December 11, 2008 at 10:35 am
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - December 11, 2008 at 11:35 am
RE: Daystar - by lukec - December 11, 2008 at 6:54 pm
RE: Daystar - by Purple Rabbit - December 11, 2008 at 7:02 pm
RE: Daystar - by Kyuuketsuki - December 12, 2008 at 5:36 am
RE: Daystar - by infidel666 - December 13, 2008 at 3:41 am
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - December 13, 2008 at 5:57 am
RE: Daystar - by Purple Rabbit - December 13, 2008 at 6:41 am
RE: Daystar - by Kyuuketsuki - December 14, 2008 at 8:23 am
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RE: Daystar - by Kyuuketsuki - December 14, 2008 at 12:58 pm
RE: Daystar - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2008 at 11:39 am
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - December 11, 2008 at 11:47 am
RE: Daystar - by leo-rcc - December 11, 2008 at 1:42 pm
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - December 13, 2008 at 11:37 am
RE: Daystar - by Purple Rabbit - December 13, 2008 at 1:10 pm
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RE: Daystar - by Edwardo Piet - December 14, 2008 at 12:48 pm
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - December 14, 2008 at 1:59 pm
RE: Daystar - by Purple Rabbit - December 11, 2008 at 4:37 pm
RE: Daystar - by LukeMC - December 11, 2008 at 5:39 pm
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RE: Daystar - by LukeMC - December 11, 2008 at 6:25 pm
RE: Daystar - by Purple Rabbit - December 11, 2008 at 6:52 pm
RE: Daystar - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2008 at 1:48 pm
RE: Daystar - by leo-rcc - December 13, 2008 at 6:32 am
RE: Daystar - by Darwinian - December 13, 2008 at 6:45 am
RE: Daystar - by Edwardo Piet - December 13, 2008 at 8:35 am
RE: Daystar - by Rob - December 13, 2008 at 9:13 am
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RE: Daystar - by Daystar - December 13, 2008 at 3:09 pm
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RE: Daystar - by Tiberius - December 13, 2008 at 10:34 pm
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - December 13, 2008 at 11:33 pm
RE: Daystar - by Edwardo Piet - December 14, 2008 at 1:28 am
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - December 14, 2008 at 9:45 am
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RE: Daystar - by Daystar - December 14, 2008 at 10:30 am
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RE: Daystar - by Daystar - December 14, 2008 at 11:01 pm
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RE: Daystar - by Daystar - December 15, 2008 at 3:30 pm
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RE: Daystar - by Daystar - December 15, 2008 at 3:45 pm
RE: Daystar - by LukeMC - December 15, 2008 at 3:58 pm
RE: Daystar - by Ace Otana - December 15, 2008 at 4:05 pm
RE: Daystar - by Kyuuketsuki - December 15, 2008 at 3:54 am
RE: Daystar - by Purple Rabbit - December 15, 2008 at 2:02 pm
RE: Daystar - by lukec - December 15, 2008 at 6:05 am
RE: Daystar - by Daystar - December 15, 2008 at 3:58 pm
RE: Daystar - by LukeMC - December 15, 2008 at 4:11 pm
RE: Daystar - by Edwardo Piet - December 15, 2008 at 8:56 pm
RE: Daystar - by leo-rcc - December 15, 2008 at 6:35 am
RE: Daystar - by lukec - December 15, 2008 at 11:46 am
RE: Daystar - by LukeMC - December 15, 2008 at 2:08 pm
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RE: Daystar - by Kyuuketsuki - December 15, 2008 at 4:51 pm
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RE: Daystar - by LukeMC - December 15, 2008 at 3:42 pm
RE: Daystar - by Giff - December 16, 2008 at 6:00 am
RE: Daystar - by leo-rcc - December 16, 2008 at 7:02 am
RE: Daystar - by Kyuuketsuki - December 16, 2008 at 8:58 am
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RE: Daystar - by Edwardo Piet - December 16, 2008 at 2:23 pm
RE: Daystar - by Purple Rabbit - December 16, 2008 at 3:45 pm
RE: Daystar - by LukeMC - December 16, 2008 at 4:09 pm
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RE: Daystar - by Ace Otana - December 16, 2008 at 5:13 pm
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