RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
March 10, 2013 at 8:43 pm
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2013 at 8:48 pm by ideologue08.)
(March 10, 2013 at 8:37 pm)Darkstar Wrote:Wow. I'm going to try to explain it one more time as clearly as I possibly can:(March 10, 2013 at 8:32 pm)mo66 Wrote: Hi,I think you misdunderstood me, perhaps I could have clarified a bit, but I was referring to this:
I'm not a Satanist. I'm Muslim.
(March 10, 2013 at 2:52 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I was involved in the occult and satanism and drugs and God got me out of it.
(March 10, 2013 at 8:32 pm)mo66 Wrote: I said I know an Atheist who believes Satan exists because of the kind of things that they do. (They believe the Bible/Qur'an etc. are totally false but they do accept some characters existed such as Muhammad, Jesus, Moses, and yes Satan as well. And no, they don't believe in God. I geniunely don't see why you have beef with this. Why do you think it's impossible that an Atheist believes in Satan? As far as I'm concerned, it's no different to believing that Jesus Christ existed...?
But Jesus couldn't have been the son of god if there were no god. Likewise, Satan couldn't be a fallen angel if there were no angels. Unless you mean to say he believes in something merely similar to Satan (as I theorized in my last post) rather than the biblical Satan, who was cast out of heaven by god...but not really, because god doesn't exist?
An Atheist who believes Jesus existed =\=> They believe in Christianity.
An Atheist who believes Satan exists =\=> They believe Satan fell out of heaven or God created Satan etc.
(March 10, 2013 at 8:38 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:From wiki:(March 10, 2013 at 8:17 pm)mo66 Wrote: Believing Satan exists=\= Satanism
Ah. So you're talking about Satanists-in-name-only.
"Satanism is a broad term referring to a group of Western religions comprising diverse ideological and philosophical beliefs. Their shared features include symbolic association with, or admiration for the character of, Satan, or similar rebellious, promethean, and, in their view, liberating figures."
No Atheist I know is a Satanist, in fact, Atheism and Satanism are fundamentally incompatible in my opinion. However, it is perfectly acceptable for an Atheist to believe that a being called Satan does exist, just like a being called Jesus existed.