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A Small Census
RE: A Small Census
genkaus dateline' Wrote: Ridiculous. Those are the principles I follow everyday. And I know for a fact that my final switch to atheism did not make a difference in my beliefs regarding morality.

What did you believe before you an atheist that was compatible with atheism? Did you go from Deism to atheism or something like that?


Quote:What is significant is the morality I do accept and live by which is not detemined by my atheism, i.e. what I don't believe in, but the rest of my philosophical outlook, i.e. what I do believe in.

How can you separate what you do believe in from what you don't believe in? You can't do this and be rational person. You understand what things are in terms of what they are not. While you may not think about your beliefs everyday, what you don't believe forms a structure of belief that informs what you do believe, and it is a major part of the structure of your understanding.

I don't see how you can fail to see this.

Are you really arguing that it doesn't matter very much whether you believe in God or not? I can't believe what I am reading. It is almost like you are trying to grab a hold of anything that you can to make the absurd point that atheism is not belief, it is only the absence of belief. There is no concern for a systemic appreciation of the way that one aspect of philosophy affects another, only a sort of carnal impulse to defend as fiercely as possible the hopeless argument that atheism does not imply anything about ethics.
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A Small Census - by rexbeccarox - March 7, 2013 at 3:18 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Minimalist - March 7, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: A Small Census - by frankiej - March 7, 2013 at 3:26 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Darkstar - March 7, 2013 at 3:31 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Tartarus Sauce - March 7, 2013 at 3:36 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Angrboda - March 7, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Rhizomorph13 - March 10, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Whateverist - March 10, 2013 at 4:32 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Psykhronic - March 7, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Jackalope - March 7, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Angrboda - March 7, 2013 at 5:18 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Faith No More - March 7, 2013 at 3:52 pm
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RE: A Small Census - by Catechism - March 10, 2013 at 6:21 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Esquilax - March 10, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Cyberman - March 10, 2013 at 10:48 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Kayenneh - March 7, 2013 at 4:02 pm
RE: A Small Census - by pocaracas - March 7, 2013 at 4:09 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Simon Moon - March 7, 2013 at 4:16 pm
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RE: A Small Census - by iameatingjam - March 7, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Fruity - March 7, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: A Small Census - by rexbeccarox - March 7, 2013 at 5:09 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Justtristo - March 7, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: A Small Census - by festive1 - March 7, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Mystical - March 7, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: A Small Census - by rexbeccarox - March 7, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Mystical - March 7, 2013 at 7:39 pm
RE: A Small Census - by rexbeccarox - March 7, 2013 at 8:01 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Simon Moon - March 7, 2013 at 8:05 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Mystical - March 7, 2013 at 8:14 pm
RE: A Small Census - by rexbeccarox - March 7, 2013 at 8:39 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Mystical - March 7, 2013 at 9:30 pm
RE: A Small Census - by genkaus - March 7, 2013 at 11:24 pm
RE: A Small Census - by KichigaiNeko - March 7, 2013 at 11:43 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Mystical - March 8, 2013 at 1:21 am
RE: A Small Census - by rexbeccarox - March 8, 2013 at 1:32 am
RE: A Small Census - by Esquilax - March 8, 2013 at 1:32 am
RE: A Small Census - by Kayenneh - March 8, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: A Small Census - by Minimalist - March 8, 2013 at 2:46 am
RE: A Small Census - by rexbeccarox - March 8, 2013 at 4:37 am
RE: A Small Census - by LastPoet - March 8, 2013 at 4:54 am
RE: A Small Census - by Gilgamesh - March 8, 2013 at 5:47 am
RE: A Small Census - by LastPoet - March 8, 2013 at 6:19 am
RE: A Small Census - by Angrboda - March 8, 2013 at 5:01 pm
RE: A Small Census - by CleanShavenJesus - March 8, 2013 at 4:27 pm
RE: A Small Census - by C3P0 - March 8, 2013 at 5:12 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 2:06 am
RE: A Small Census - by Darkstar - March 9, 2013 at 2:25 am
RE: A Small Census - by Esquilax - March 9, 2013 at 2:43 am
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 2:29 am
RE: A Small Census - by Darkstar - March 9, 2013 at 2:36 am
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 3:04 am
RE: A Small Census - by Tartarus Sauce - March 9, 2013 at 3:50 am
RE: A Small Census - by rexbeccarox - March 9, 2013 at 3:27 am
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 3:48 am
RE: A Small Census - by Kayenneh - March 9, 2013 at 5:01 am
RE: A Small Census - by Whateverist - March 9, 2013 at 5:47 am
RE: A Small Census - by downbeatplumb - March 9, 2013 at 6:24 am
RE: A Small Census - by Whateverist - March 9, 2013 at 6:29 am
RE: A Small Census - by Kayenneh - March 9, 2013 at 6:39 am
RE: A Small Census - by downbeatplumb - March 9, 2013 at 6:40 am
RE: A Small Census - by Kayenneh - March 9, 2013 at 6:48 am
RE: A Small Census - by TromboneAtheist - March 9, 2013 at 3:36 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Esquilax - March 9, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 4:57 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Simon Moon - March 9, 2013 at 5:33 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 5:43 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 5:52 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Simon Moon - March 9, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 5:33 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 6:39 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 6:59 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 8:22 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Mystical - March 9, 2013 at 11:13 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Simon Moon - March 9, 2013 at 7:27 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Kayenneh - March 9, 2013 at 6:08 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 8:31 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 8:42 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Gonzalo697 - March 9, 2013 at 8:50 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Minimalist - March 9, 2013 at 8:57 pm
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RE: A Small Census - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 9:09 pm
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RE: A Small Census - by Mystical - March 9, 2013 at 10:57 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 11:13 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Shell B - March 10, 2013 at 12:00 am
RE: A Small Census - by Something completely different - March 10, 2013 at 12:08 am
RE: A Small Census - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: A Small Census - by Shell B - March 10, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: A Small Census - by LastPoet - March 10, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 1:51 pm
RE: A Small Census - by LastPoet - March 10, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: A Small Census - by downbeatplumb - March 10, 2013 at 2:05 pm
RE: A Small Census - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 2:03 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 2:05 pm
RE: A Small Census - by LastPoet - March 10, 2013 at 2:10 pm
RE: A Small Census - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 2:13 pm
RE: A Small Census - by genkaus - March 10, 2013 at 10:35 pm
RE: A Small Census - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 10:45 pm
RE: A Small Census - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: A Small Census - by LastPoet - March 10, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: A Small Census - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: A Small Census - by genkaus - March 10, 2013 at 10:30 pm
RE: A Small Census - by LastPoet - March 10, 2013 at 2:21 pm
RE: A Small Census - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 2:35 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Shell B - March 10, 2013 at 4:23 pm
RE: A Small Census - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Rhizomorph13 - March 10, 2013 at 4:44 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Shell B - March 10, 2013 at 4:45 pm
RE: A Small Census - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Shell B - March 10, 2013 at 5:13 pm
RE: A Small Census - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 10, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: A Small Census - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Shell B - March 10, 2013 at 5:33 pm
RE: A Small Census - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 5:37 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Jackalope - March 10, 2013 at 5:42 pm
RE: A Small Census - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 5:43 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Cyberman - March 10, 2013 at 6:40 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Jackalope - March 10, 2013 at 6:40 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Shell B - March 10, 2013 at 6:44 pm
RE: A Small Census - by fr0d0 - March 10, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Cyberman - March 10, 2013 at 8:06 pm
RE: A Small Census - by fr0d0 - March 11, 2013 at 3:03 pm
RE: A Small Census - by MysticKnight - March 10, 2013 at 10:34 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 10:34 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 10:47 pm
RE: A Small Census - by genkaus - March 10, 2013 at 11:24 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: A Small Census - by genkaus - March 10, 2013 at 11:49 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 11:59 pm
RE: A Small Census - by genkaus - March 11, 2013 at 12:17 am
RE: A Small Census - by Cyberman - March 10, 2013 at 11:44 pm
RE: A Small Census - by rexbeccarox - March 10, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: A Small Census - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 12:33 am
RE: A Small Census - by Esquilax - March 11, 2013 at 12:45 am
RE: A Small Census - by genkaus - March 11, 2013 at 12:46 am
RE: A Small Census - by Angrboda - March 11, 2013 at 12:54 am
RE: A Small Census - by CleanShavenJesus - March 11, 2013 at 4:43 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Cyberman - March 11, 2013 at 3:04 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Whateverist - March 11, 2013 at 8:50 pm
RE: A Small Census - by fr0d0 - March 12, 2013 at 3:23 am
RE: A Small Census - by Whateverist - March 13, 2013 at 1:52 am
RE: A Small Census - by Neo-Scholastic - March 11, 2013 at 8:37 pm
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RE: A Small Census - by WithoutShame - March 11, 2013 at 10:31 pm
RE: A Small Census - by Mystical - March 12, 2013 at 11:28 pm
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