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Detoxification of Heavy Metals
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RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals
(March 13, 2013 at 6:10 pm)John V Wrote: Fasting is like chiropractic. Mainstream medicine looks down on it because they didn't invent it, but it works, so it's going to stick around and gain popularity.

Mainstream medicine looks down on chiropractic because at best it does absolutely nothing that licensed physical therapy couldn't, and at worst could do irreparable damage. Many chiropractic practitioners also make bogus claims about what exactly it can do for you, leading people to not seek the treatment they should from actual medical professionals.

I'm having a hard time with the links you provided - partially because they are all from two sources, only one of which looks like it has anything to do with a medical establishment, and partially because when I look up toxemia, the answers I'm getting don't jive with what he's saying. Also, a lot of yelling about basic symptoms people get in general. The amount of over-the-counter headache medication sold is not an indicator of a low-level problem in all of society. Headache is a common symptom of many ailments. In fact, there are many symptoms that are indicative of many ailments, including fatigue. This is why I told Fallen that just because his symptoms match one particular ailment it doesn't mean he has that ailment. It's merely a starting point to further testing, which is why he should go to a medical professional who will perform the tests he wants, and he should also have the tests the doctor wants done as well. While you can certainly communicate your symptoms to your doctor better than anyone else, your doctor has the training and access to the technology to find the solution you need.

I'm not seeing any links to any studies that bolster his opinion, just tripe like this:

Quote:Notice I said scientific, not medical. The mind set which doctors live in is: treatment of illness, once it is firmly established and obvious. Your doctor is the wrong person to talk to regarding a condition of maximum vitality or even regarding prevention of illness. Blue Cross cannot be billed for that, not yet anyway. Therefore, your physician is unlikely to know anything about the benefits of fasting, and when physicians find themselves not knowing about something (which is intolerable to a doctor's ego), you can be sure they will make up an opinion, usually a negative one.

Contrary to what you believe, doctors are not all in the pocket of big pharma. While we're speaking in anecdotes here, let me just say that I never seem to have these problems you people have. I have a great relationship with my doctor, who is also my gynocologist, and never once has her solution simply been "take this pill" except in the case of birth control (because, hurdy-derp-derp, that's pretty much all there is to it unless we wish to add condoms, which we didn't, hence Pill), or in the case where simple anti-biotics could fix something (UTI). My allergy problems, my sinus problems, my asthma is all discussed at length, the symptoms and causes explored and discovered, and an active self-responsible solution found that includes situation or life changes instead of just "take this pill/inhaler/etc". Have I had bad experiences with doctors? Absolutely - one of them caused me to end up in the hospital with pneumonia because she was dismissive of my insistence that it wasn't just a "bad cold". It's pretty easy to tell a good doctor from bad, though. Dismissal and refusal to explain things are the indications - not the prescription of drugs approved by the FDA. If you're leery, fucking ask for the reason why you're being prescribed a pill and discuss alternatives and tell them why you don't want to take it. They will either explain why it's more legitimate for you to take the pill, or work with you to find those alternatives.

My boss is currently working next to me so I haven't had time to read Rayaan's links. Hopefully they have something more useful than pseudo-science masking itself as a biology lesson.
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Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 3:35 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 27, 2013 at 4:30 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 4:34 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by KichigaiNeko - February 27, 2013 at 7:10 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 7:23 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by KichigaiNeko - February 27, 2013 at 7:59 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Tiberius - February 27, 2013 at 8:11 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by FallentoReason - February 27, 2013 at 8:14 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Darth - February 27, 2013 at 10:02 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by KichigaiNeko - February 28, 2013 at 12:41 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by justin - February 28, 2013 at 12:49 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by KichigaiNeko - February 28, 2013 at 1:13 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Angrboda - February 28, 2013 at 6:26 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by FallentoReason - February 28, 2013 at 9:25 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - February 28, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by FallentoReason - March 11, 2013 at 9:43 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - March 12, 2013 at 7:55 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by KichigaiNeko - March 12, 2013 at 12:58 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by FallentoReason - March 12, 2013 at 6:24 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 12, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Fruity - March 12, 2013 at 11:35 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by pro sports5 - March 12, 2013 at 10:26 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 7:21 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - March 13, 2013 at 8:10 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by KichigaiNeko - March 13, 2013 at 8:15 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 8:27 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by KichigaiNeko - March 13, 2013 at 8:29 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 9:58 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by KichigaiNeko - March 14, 2013 at 4:59 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by FallentoReason - March 13, 2013 at 11:53 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Angrboda - March 13, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Jackalope - March 13, 2013 at 2:21 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 13, 2013 at 1:29 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Angrboda - March 13, 2013 at 1:46 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - March 13, 2013 at 5:36 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Angrboda - March 13, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - March 14, 2013 at 7:57 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Angrboda - March 14, 2013 at 10:46 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - March 14, 2013 at 11:07 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Angrboda - March 14, 2013 at 11:47 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - March 14, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Angrboda - March 14, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - March 15, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - March 15, 2013 at 4:47 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by catfish - March 15, 2013 at 5:03 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Jackalope - March 15, 2013 at 2:37 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Angrboda - March 15, 2013 at 4:19 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Angrboda - March 14, 2013 at 11:38 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Rayaan - March 13, 2013 at 5:54 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - March 13, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Rayaan - March 13, 2013 at 6:18 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - March 13, 2013 at 8:14 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 14, 2013 at 9:22 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - March 14, 2013 at 10:22 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by The Magic Pudding - March 14, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 14, 2013 at 11:47 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 14, 2013 at 12:52 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Rayaan - March 15, 2013 at 12:59 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Angrboda - March 15, 2013 at 1:30 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Rayaan - March 15, 2013 at 3:12 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Angrboda - March 15, 2013 at 3:35 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by KichigaiNeko - March 15, 2013 at 4:22 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by Rayaan - March 15, 2013 at 4:44 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 7:03 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 9:24 am
Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by KichigaiNeko - March 15, 2013 at 10:01 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 15, 2013 at 10:09 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - March 18, 2013 at 10:12 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 18, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - March 18, 2013 at 11:28 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 18, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 18, 2013 at 12:09 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - March 18, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 18, 2013 at 1:24 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - March 18, 2013 at 2:03 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by John V - March 18, 2013 at 2:37 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by orogenicman - March 18, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: Detoxification of Heavy Metals - by thesummerqueen - March 18, 2013 at 2:33 pm

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