RE: Believing in creationism is a sin
March 15, 2013 at 5:04 am
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2013 at 5:15 am by Aractus.)
(March 13, 2013 at 8:14 pm)Nerd Wrote: Christans who believe in creationism and present it is fact to someone are sining due to the fact that there 9th commandment says not to lie.Not another F*?!ING thread on creationism! And you spell it: Christians. You don't see me misspelling atheist on here…
(March 13, 2013 at 8:18 pm)Nerd Wrote: If find it impossible to belive that someone is realy dumb enough to belive that the earth is ~6000 years old and that we started with 2 people and have been inbreeding since.1. You mean "sons", 2. Most "generations" listed in Genesis list only the sons and not the daughters - this isn't unusual.
Also since Adam and Eve only had 2 brothers that means they had sex with there mom ewwww.
(March 13, 2013 at 8:21 pm)festive1 Wrote: I personally know a man with a PhD in physics who is born again. I have heard him prattle on about how carbon dating is flawed, amongst other things. There are very gifted people who are very gullible.To be fair, carbon dating IS flawed and has obvious limitations. It can also be forged. If you burn paper and mix the ashes with the ink, write on paper and then have the ink carbon dated guess what? You can make the ink date to 1540, 1320, 90 BC, in fact just about any date in history you want your forgery to date to. You can also do the same with the paper - though it's harder. The biggest limitation, IMHO, is that radiocarbon dating is focused on a single material from a presumed known starting condition. This isn't to say that it's "bad" it's a limit - it works much better and more reliably for materials that are naturally rich in carbon, and really badly for materials that don't contain a lot of carbon.
(March 13, 2013 at 8:33 pm)Nerd Wrote: But physics proves that creationism is impossible. Time did not exist before the big bang so therefore "god" could not have created the universe as "god" did not have time to. Maybe he is just trolling or parodying those people.Wrong. We don't know whether time is a property contained in, or outside of our universe, and there are plenty of physicists who will argue their case either way.
Now I don't care who you think you are, but ridiculing people with different beliefs to you for their beliefs is not the right way to go about it. The universe doesn't perform calculations you know - yet the only scientific way we know how to describe it (using physics) is with calculations, so think again.
Oh, and FYI Nerd - I have an astrophysicist who lives 50m from my house, we are regularly attending members of the same Church, he teaches at the ANU and at least 15 of his students have gone on to become science advisers to world leaders. A few months ago he received the Prime Minister's Science Prize for his work with dark matter, he's the very best in Australia in his field. What do you have? Let me guess, you have the "I know better because I'm an atheist" card. No decent scientist lets their faith interfere with their work.
Creationists - by definition I might add - are not scientists. Thus it is unfair and incorrect to compare the two.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
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The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke