(March 16, 2013 at 12:17 pm)jstrodel Wrote: 1: Have you ever heard of the IWW? Do you know what a syndicalist is? Do you know how many conservatives there are in labor unions?
2:You have a small mind and you haven't thought about this that much. Just shut up. I have thought about this more than you have. Just shut up, unless you have a real argument to make. I know perfectly well what state socialism is.
3:Socialism is when the working class owns the means of production. You have a small minded view of socialism. You think France is an example of a socialist country. Whatever. Just shut up.
1: Yes. Yes. Yes. The IWW is a very large Union organization, Syndicalism is a form of socialism involved heavily in the promotion of unions, and not many at all, the ratio of conservatives to liberals in unions is somewhere to the tune of 150:1.
2: Really? Because it seems like you don't given that unions are backed by the government and that without government support, unions cannot exist because they lose all legal legitimacy and resources other than what they get in union dues which are not nearly enough to go toe-to-toe with the financial might of a corporation, you RETARD. So if you remove government influence from the economic world [libertarianism], unions will no longer be able to exist, because they only exist with laws that back their existence, which can also be written out entirely by the government as well, as I've seen firsthand through Scott Walker and the collective bargaining rights of teachers and educators up here, and from unions working for private laborers as well, so that they can only argue for their pay but no longer their benefits. Don't tell me I've got a small mind and don't think about things when you are so fucking convoluted in your statements and so self-contradicting that you can't even figure out what kind of political affiliation adheres to what.
3: No, it's SOCIAL control over the means over the forms of production, not exclusively labor-class. And it's about NOT working for profit; WHAT THE FUCK kind of libertarian says that you should work for no fucking profit?! What the fuck are you even TALKING about?!! FRANCE?!! I haven't said a fucking WORD about France! Quit putting words in my mouth to make up for your stupidity, lack of knowledge, ignorance, lack of direction, and lack of understanding, because EVERYONE can see RIGHT through your bullshit, dude. You are a presumptuous, self-contradicting, arrogant, ignorant dipshit. The professor doesn't shut up to let the dropout lecture him, the dropout shuts the fuck up because he doesn't know what he's saying, so kindly, YOU shut the fuck up.
