RE: Proving God Existence
March 18, 2013 at 3:46 pm
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2013 at 3:58 pm by Muslim Scholar.)
(March 18, 2013 at 10:19 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote: The problem with it all starts very early. "a consistent (as we assume) set of repeated events we use as a reference (e.g. clock ticks, radiation, moon cycle, etc."Actually it doesn't matter at all if it is really consistent or not
I would imagine the whole thing runs into problems when you realise these "reference" points are relative and not consistent throughout the whole universe simultaneously.
I would also imagine that the OP would sooner reinterpret the argument to take things like this into account than to admit the conclusion is faulty.
Time can be just a relation between two events
"I went home while eating a sandwich"
If there is more than one event happening, then time can exist
We can call it MyTime instead of time, in the context of the proof I can name anything as long it is not setting a false fact.
(March 18, 2013 at 10:17 am)LastPoet Wrote: Give us links, if you please.There is no links, I wrote this myself
I did not find in all Islamic texts anything that can prove God existence without referring to religious texts!
However I found few hints that led me to use proof by contradiction rather than direct proof of God.
If you are interested I can share them.
(March 18, 2013 at 10:44 am)pocaracas Wrote: Others have bugged you with other details, I'll bug you with this detail.I did not miss it!
You're missing, at least, one term, there.
E = U + N + G
N = UNknown Universe (which, as far as we are aware, is much much more than the known universe).
As N is very large, G must be very, very small.
I wrote "Known universe" on purpose
Anything else is G (including the possibility that G may equal N1+N2+...+G)
G must be a single unit (Singularity)
because if more than one object exist, time (as I defined it) must exist as well
Another point, as G is unique there no meaning of asking is it big or small or even compare its size to anything, it doesn't have a size at all
It is something beyond all what we know, so we cannot even question things like what its size? is it male or female? what color? etc.