RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham?
March 18, 2013 at 8:30 pm
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2013 at 8:39 pm by Drich.)
(March 18, 2013 at 7:26 pm)Tonus Wrote: Their confusion is understandable, though, isn't it?Only if one is trying to appease the general populace as well as uphold his own system of beliefs at the same time.
Quote: They are expected to accept --and even defend-- some very disturbing deeds as being righteous because the one who committed or commissioned them is exempt from moral judgment.Who says or even where is it written that God is exempt from 'moral' judgement? As I have already said, That s what this life is about. Judging God. So that we may decide if we spend an eternity with Him or an eternity seperated from Him.
Quote: It also means that they cannot have full faith in god.why?
Quote: If any of his actions are righteous, and he has shown a willingness to take action that men would deem immoral,"Men" deem anything immoral that does not suit them. You're confusing His unchanging nature with the ever changing nature of man's 'morality.' Men even deem it one's moral obligation to betray your brother when it is considered to be for the greater 'good.' (civial war)
Quote: what stops him from betraying his followers?What prompted Him to save them in the first place? The answer to your question and mine is Love.
Quote: To do so would not be wrong, as this is not possible for god. Arbitrarily damning a loyal follower would be the righteous course, by definition.That is why it has nothing to do with right or wrong.
Quote:Well, based on what I just wrote, I'm not sure I'd have that choice. What if I've led a fairly immoral life and wronged others, but god decides that I'll get into heaven anyway?Thankfully our 'righteousness' is measured apart from 'Man's morality.' Our righteousness is a gift from Christ so that no man can boast. For we all have fallen far short from the righteousness needed to enter Heaven.
Quote: His action would be righteous. What if I've led an exemplary life and served god faithfully, and he decides, oh I dunno... to let the devil wipe out my possessions, murder my children, afflict me with an awful sickness, cause my wife to advise suicide, and my trusted friends to rub my face in the dirt? And what if I remain loyal, expecting that a just and kind god would explain my plight, only to have him lecture me on how small and insignificant I am, a verbal lashing that forces me to apologize for my arrogance? His actions would be righteous.Absolutly Yes!
why? Because everything Job had, was, or ever will be, literally belonged to God.
Quote:I'm thinking that I might be better off eternally separated from him. There's some consistency in that.
Which is the very choice and judgement you said you were not privy to. Imagine that.
(March 18, 2013 at 5:50 pm)Chuck Wrote:(March 18, 2013 at 3:56 pm)Drich Wrote: Yuuup. It is as simple as that.
Indeed, an brain dead inbred monkey can't make it simpler, but can probably make it more sophisticated.
Just an observation chuckie, if I were so easy to push over with an intellect just a little greater than what a monkey possesed, then why haven't you yet? Why is the only weapon in your arsenal insults and empty dismissals? Why can't you seem to be able to actually dispel some of the topical talking point with fact and reason? Why does it seem all your able to do is heckle from the side lines? Our last few discussions haven't left you gun shy have they?