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Sarah was half-sister of Abraham?
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RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham?
(March 18, 2013 at 8:30 pm)Drich Wrote: Only if one is trying to appease the general populace as well as uphold his own system of beliefs at the same time.
Or if one is trying to appease a god who ostensibly provided him his system of beliefs, urges him to follow his example, then acts in a manner that betrays those beliefs.
Drich Wrote:Who says or even where is it written that God is exempt from 'moral' judgement? As I have already said, That s what this life is about. Judging God. So that we may decide if we spend an eternity with Him or an eternity seperated from Him.
You said "God deals in absolute righteousness, as it sides with God each and every time. Absolute Righteousness makes the unchanging God the authority/standard and not whatever pop culture deems is right and wrong." I understand this to mean that god is above the moral standards of man. Therefore, it follows that god is exempt from moral judgment. How can anyone judge a being who is above anyone else's sense of morality, and whose every action is righteous by definition? Did I misunderstand you?
Drich Wrote:"Men" deem anything immoral that does not suit them. You're confusing His unchanging nature with the ever changing nature of man's 'morality.' Men even deem it one's moral obligation to betray your brother when it is considered to be for the greater 'good.' (civial war)
You're...
Drich Wrote:What prompted Him to save them in the first place? The answer to your question and mine is Love.
...missing...
Drich Wrote:That is why it has nothing to do with right or wrong.
...the...
Drich Wrote:Thankfully our 'righteousness' is measured apart from 'Man's morality.' Our righteousness is a gift from Christ so that no man can boast. For we all have fallen far short from the righteousness needed to enter Heaven.
...point.

That doesn't answer the question. I'm not sure why you broke it up and responded to each piece separately, but none of that has to do with the point I was making. I'll try again:

If god acts in an arbitrary manner and can throw morality out of the window, then men have no guidelines for behavior. There are no role models, only a being who can do a righteous 180 without warning. His "love" is as meaningless as our "morality." God can promise men that he will reward them for their loyalty, then cruelly yank the rug out from under them because they didn't read the fine print. "Everything you have is mine, and therefore my promises don't mean squat!" he laughs. Job had no reason to serve god; god might well have given him riches and happiness anyway. After all, he took it all away even though Job gave no cause. "God felt like it" was the cause. Job's actions and loyalty did not factor into it, except to draw god's attention, and that went pretty disastrously for him.
Drich Wrote:Which is the very choice and judgement you said you were not privy to. Imagine that.
Errr... no. I'd certainly be better off separated from the god you are describing, but I wouldn't have that choice. If god decides that I'm to be eternally at his side, then I am, whether I want to or not. I'm always privy to god's judgment (more accurately, his whim), because it is whatever he decides it is. He is above right and wrong, the cosmic bully who sneers as he tells me he loves me, daring me to disagree. "That's a nice heavenly soul you've got there, fella. Pity if anything should happen to it."
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by MysticKnight - March 16, 2013 at 11:29 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Justtristo - March 16, 2013 at 11:34 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by KichigaiNeko - March 16, 2013 at 11:37 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Drich - March 18, 2013 at 11:38 am
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Minimalist - March 18, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by DeistPaladin - March 18, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Drich - March 18, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2013 at 2:18 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Drich - March 18, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by DeistPaladin - March 18, 2013 at 4:49 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by John V - March 18, 2013 at 5:00 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by DeistPaladin - March 18, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2013 at 5:50 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Tonus - March 18, 2013 at 7:26 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Drich - March 18, 2013 at 8:30 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Tonus - March 18, 2013 at 9:03 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Drich - March 22, 2013 at 12:16 am
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Tonus - March 22, 2013 at 5:48 am
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Anomalocaris - March 19, 2013 at 12:25 am
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Tonus - March 18, 2013 at 3:15 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by DeistPaladin - March 18, 2013 at 3:54 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Cinjin - March 18, 2013 at 4:25 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Joel - March 18, 2013 at 11:50 am
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Tonus - March 18, 2013 at 12:58 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2013 at 1:02 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Foxaèr - March 18, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: Sarah was half-sister of Abraham? - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2013 at 7:29 pm

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