RE: Proving God Existence
March 20, 2013 at 4:31 am
(This post was last modified: March 20, 2013 at 4:38 am by Muslim Scholar.)
(March 19, 2013 at 8:27 am)Rhythm Wrote:If God used the word "Son" to describe Jesus, and directed these words to us, then he must mean something we understandQuote:Christianity claims that God had a son, which is impossible (even for God himself) because it is a ParadoxThis would be true of a creature with some sort of biological heredity, and you perceive it this way because you are such a creature, but why the things that hold true for you would hold true for a god is a mystery.......
The word "Son" means two things
1- The son came after the Father
2- Son is somehow similar to God (i.e. a God)
So it must mean something very close to what we understand by Son
Or God is intentionally trying to mislead us!!!
Quote:You, personally, don't feel that a created thing could be a godThat's the point, if you call him a creature and God, then what do you mean by God?
(March 19, 2013 at 8:41 am)ManMachine Wrote: 1. We cannot assume time is a 'relation between two events'. There is not always a causal or temporal relationship between certain quantum events.Why we cannot assume that? can you explain the term time when there is no events or just one event?
2. We cannot assume time is infinite. Time is only our relative view of a phenomenon called (unhelpfully) spacetime. Time and space are two parts of the same thing that only appear to us as seperate. We simply do not know enough about the Universe to make this assumption.
Another way to understand it, forget about the term time
Let's call it RE (Relative events)
then replace the word time by RE in my proof
Relative events cannot be infinite, so there was some time where one event occurs at a time from a single source.....................
Quote:For the second part, you have assumed that the universe cannot come into existance from nothing without the help of 'G'. This is also not true.It is very obvious, Mutually exclusive events/adjectives cannot exist simultaneously, a static object will remain static forever till something change it.
Quote:U(0) can equal nothing and still give rise to a universe of matter independantly. This is all built on the Law of least Action. The Universe is essentially lazy.This is impossible something cannot come from nothing. (paradox)