(March 18, 2013 at 9:03 pm)Tonus Wrote: You said "God deals in absolute righteousness, as it sides with God each and every time. Absolute Righteousness makes the unchanging God the authority/standard and not whatever pop culture deems is right and wrong." I understand this to mean that god is above the moral standards of man. Therefore, it follows that god is exempt from moral judgment. How can anyone judge a being who is above anyone else's sense of morality, and whose every action is righteous by definition? Did I misunderstand you?appearently. For judgement has nothing to do with being able to levy a sentence against God. Those who look to 'morally' judge God will do so by electing to be eternally seperated from Him.
Quote:That doesn't answer the question. I'm not sure why you broke it up and responded to each piece separately, but none of that has to do with the point I was making. I'll try again:The reason the question was broken up was to break you line of reasoning. Look at what you wrote Here you whole arguement is based on a what if... What if God changes his mind... Rather than asking yourself Has God changed His mind? The answer (Even if you do not understand it) is No, never. The same things that applied still apply (This includes attonemnt) What attonement does is remove the burden of responsiablity from the sinner and places it on Christ. So again the same rules apply, it's just 'we' are not responsiable for our short commings or inablity to keep said rules.
If god acts in an arbitrary manner and can throw morality out of the window, then men have no guidelines for behavior. There are no role models, only a being who can do a righteous 180 without warning. His "love" is as meaningless as our "morality." God can promise men that he will reward them for their loyalty, then cruelly yank the rug out from under them because they didn't read the fine print. "Everything you have is mine, and therefore my promises don't mean squat!" he laughs. Job had no reason to serve god; god might well have given him riches and happiness anyway. After all, he took it all away even though Job gave no cause. "God felt like it" was the cause. Job's actions and loyalty did not factor into it, except to draw god's attention, and that went pretty disastrously for him.
Quote:Errr... no. I'd certainly be better off separated from the god you are describing, but I wouldn't have that choice. If god decides that I'm to be eternally at his side, then I am, whether I want to or not. I'm always privy to god's judgment (more accurately, his whim), because it is whatever he decides it is. He is above right and wrong, the cosmic bully who sneers as he tells me he loves me, daring me to disagree. "That's a nice heavenly soul you've got there, fella. Pity if anything should happen to it."
So you can admit thatGod is above your standards, yet you will try and shame him into letting you have things your own way but comparing Him to a mobster?
Not the best Judgement day defense strageity, but I guess if that is all you got, then what does it really matter?