(March 22, 2013 at 8:16 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(March 19, 2013 at 8:48 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: Then who created the creator? If everything that has a beginning has a cause of its existence, what, then, in your claim, created god?You really don't have a clue about the cosmological argument do you?
The cosmological argument does not rest on the premise that "everything has a cause" which opens the door to what caused God. The idea is that "Everything that comes into being has a cause". That means that all contingent beings have a cause. Therefore, to ask "what caused God?" is really to ask "what caused the thing that cannot in principle have a cause?" Even if the universe has always existed, it nonetheless owes its existence to an unmoved mover, i.e. God. Even if there are an infinite series of contingencies, there must be an original, non-contingent force that is doing the moving, a force that has not been, and cannot be influenced by any other.
I could not formulate a more brilliant example of how ignorant people will slap "god" into every gap of knowledge. Well fucking done.