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There is no objective Morality
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RE: There is no objective Morality
(March 23, 2013 at 1:25 am)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: What makes their culture 'outmoded' or 'misguided' any more than your own?
You seem to have struck the upon the 'heartless asshole' argument all on your own.
What makes their culture outmoded and misguided? How about the fact that they treat women as mere property upon which rape is treated to be an insult to their supposed owners: the husbands?

If you think a culture that thinks of its women that way is good, then I can see that we're not going to find any sort of common ground here.

Quote:I wasn't aware rape had the power to 'destabilize' society unless it becomes systematic, at which point the eating of oranges also upsets the 'stability'. Rabid orange fanatics, I swear.

Some of us are moved, others of us are not. Why do presume you can speak for all of us?
I don't even know what possessed you to somehow relate rape and oranges together. I'm going to assume that it's lack of sleep. If you had actually read the post, you'd notice I was replying to the claim that rape is bad purely because it destabilized society. I said it didn't. It was bad because it hurt the victim. Now if you don't agree with that, that the victim isn't actually hurt by the rape, then you're a terrible person.

Quote:Does it really matter if some hooker gets raped? Surely some studies must have shown that only fanatical college kids and your occasional feminazi give two shits what happens to people they don't know, and never will know. Because murdering, raping, theiving bastards aren't human, right? They couldn't be, since nonrapeymonsterness is clearly a universal human trait, as can be seen clearly with your average porn site. And wars never happen, I mean: get real, dawg!
What exactly is your point here, that humans can be bastards? Yes, we can. But we also display the capability to be emphatic, to recognize injustice even over cultural boundaries, that we can recognize when an act is horrible and should be condemned.

Quote:Further, how does being law-abiding matter? And why are you assuming that everyone I might care to name is either 'moral' or 'law-abiding'? Yeah sure, we all follow them thar assassin's credes and the pirate's code!

Please read the damn thing before actually replying to it. I'm saying that because a lot of theists think that atheists don't have any absolute authority in moral matters, they claim that nothing prevents us from going around murder-raping everyone we can get our non-believing claws on. I said that no, because if that were the case, we would in fact go around doing that and we don't. Isn't that an indication that atheists can be just as moral and law-abiding as any other Joe on the street?

*Edited for grammar issues.
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There is no objective Morality - by Mendacium Remedium - March 19, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Baalzebutt - March 19, 2013 at 4:29 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 19, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Violet - March 23, 2013 at 1:25 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 23, 2013 at 1:42 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Violet - March 23, 2013 at 1:59 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 23, 2013 at 3:32 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Sagasa - March 23, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by The Grand Nudger - March 19, 2013 at 4:48 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 19, 2013 at 5:10 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Sagasa - March 22, 2013 at 1:45 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Angrboda - March 22, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Sagasa - March 22, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Simon Moon - March 23, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Violet - March 23, 2013 at 4:35 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Tonus - March 23, 2013 at 8:58 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Violet - March 25, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Tonus - March 25, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 23, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by genkaus - March 30, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 23, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 23, 2013 at 10:03 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 12:22 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 2:00 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Silver - March 24, 2013 at 2:01 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 2:12 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Tartarus Sauce - March 24, 2013 at 2:32 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 2:07 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Silver - March 24, 2013 at 2:24 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 2:21 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 2:23 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 2:26 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 24, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 3:41 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 4:00 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Angrboda - March 24, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 10:56 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 24, 2013 at 10:59 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Violet - March 25, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 25, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - March 25, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 25, 2013 at 6:34 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 25, 2013 at 12:07 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 25, 2013 at 12:34 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Sagasa - March 25, 2013 at 5:45 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 25, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 25, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 25, 2013 at 9:27 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 26, 2013 at 12:09 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 26, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 26, 2013 at 11:20 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 26, 2013 at 11:45 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 26, 2013 at 11:55 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by A_Nony_Mouse - March 27, 2013 at 1:10 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Tonus - March 27, 2013 at 6:11 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Silver - March 27, 2013 at 6:16 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 28, 2013 at 12:08 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by CleanShavenJesus - March 30, 2013 at 12:09 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 30, 2013 at 3:29 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 12:20 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 1:05 pm

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