Science and religion

[jstrodel]

You are a fool. It is not fallacious to appeal to authority, people do it all the time.

Oooh, argument ad populum!

You appeal to authority every time you say evolutionary theory is true without having a direct experience of the truth of evolutionary theory, that is, everytime you do not see the terms involved involved, that you base your conclusions on propositions you can't see, you are appealing to authority.

Legitimate authority. They can use science to demonstrate their claims. As for god...

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You are blind, blind, blind, blind, so blind, so so blind. Evolutionary theory may be true, but you are still blind, blind, blind, blind. Open your eyes! Look at what you are doing!

Don't you realize that you are presupposing what you are trying to prove? You presuppose that science is the way to validate claims, so science can prove that Christianity is true. But Christianity has its own authorities and structures of proof. You start off with the assumption that these are valueless, and you ignore them and push them to the side.

1. Science can verify evolutionary theory, but theology cannot be verified because theological methods do not yield knowledge.

You don't argue this, you assume it, because you are blind, blind, blind, blind, blind, blind, so blind. Darkstar, I like you and think you are a nice person. But OPEN YOUR EYES. Do you realize what you are presuposing.

You don't know anything about theological methods. You don't know the evidential status of Duns Scotus or Thomas Aquinas or William of Occam because you have never read them. You don't care. You don't care about all of the different movements in theology, so you don't accept their authority.


Give me evidence for 1. So many people have mountains of evidence that 1 is false. I have it. I want to cry to badly I feel so angry when I read the ignorance and lies that prevent people from realizing God's nature and how knowable he is, and seeing all the university politics color peoples understanding of theology. God is knowable. There are good arguments for God's existence, but more than that, if you seek God, you will find God.

I have been in 4 or 5 churches where they regularly see miracles. There is a whole Christian community that has its own authority that is not related to the science world, but why should science be the sole authority in the world? If you want an example of where science was the only authority, look at Communist countries. Science is not everything.

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It is not fallacious to appeal to authority, people do it all the time.

Gotta be the first time I've seen someone try to use a argumentum ad populum to justify an argument from authority.

You mean, something like this:
"95% of scientists in biological sciences, which is probably tens of thousands of scientists accept evolutionary theory"