RE: Proving God Existence
March 25, 2013 at 4:44 pm
(This post was last modified: March 25, 2013 at 4:45 pm by ManMachine.)
(March 24, 2013 at 2:11 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:(March 20, 2013 at 7:58 am)ManMachine Wrote: You are still using 'time' to describe your proof. Your statement above is fallacious.If you like we can remove the word time
Just think about events (something changed)
the number of events must be finite......
I refer back to my original point. We simply do not know enough about the Universe to make that statement.
You cannot ignore simple facts just because it does not fit your 'logic'.
(March 24, 2013 at 2:11 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:(March 20, 2013 at 7:58 am)ManMachine Wrote: While I accept you may find the Physics behind this hard to comprehend it is theoretically possible and more importantly the theory fits with current M-Theory.It is not about Physics it is about logic
If something did not exist or was static
Then it cannot change by itself
Something else (external) must change it
If somebody is not using logic he is hallucinating.
Your 'logic' has its foundations in your understanding of the world. You believe that 'if something did not exist or was static then it cannot change by itself'. Your foundation is open to challenge and therefore so is the logic you build onto it.
I can see nothing I am going to say is going to break the circular thoughts you are locked in to, so you go off and believe whatever nonsense you want, I know when I'm flogging a dead horse.
MM
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"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)