Non-religious evidence for existence of God

[Esquilax]

have you actually bothered to do a single minute of research as to their evolutionary basis?

evolution was disproven long time ago, if you dont belive me you can see why evolution is wrong , even with photos as evidence
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/vi...65&start=0

GAH!

Dude, don't just post a link like that without warning! I can't handle the level of ignorance in there without preparation! Anyway, here's my answering link: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

So let me ask my question again: have you even spent a single minute researching the science behind this stuff? Not biased creationist reports on what's wrong with evolution (I saw many that I recognized in your post, all of them previously debunked) but actual scientific journals. Unbiased ones- and before you start saying that the scientific community is biased toward atheism I would point out that there are plenty of christian scientists, most of whom agree with the conclusions of evolutionary theory- that just show the facts, instead of misrepresenting or misunderstanding them, like literally every one of the things you said in that post did. I seriously suggest you do that.

It'd take way, way too long to go down the line and debunk each of the claims you linked to in turn, but the fact is, I could do it. Me, Esquilax the non-scientist could do it, because I'd actually bothered to research before I made my claims. I'll just do one, for funsies and to prove my chops: you claim that so-called "living fossils," disprove evolution, because their forms remained relatively stable over the millenia. That's an easy one; do you know what an evolutionary niche is?

I doubt it, so let me explain: some organisms have it just about right. Evolution doesn't just happen willy-nilly, you see; actual evolutionary shifts occur due to the mutation in question providing a demonstrable benefit to the organism. That's natural selection at work. But some creatures don't have sufficient pressure acting against them- there's no predator for sharks, for example, and so the shark form has been in use for ages- and hence there's no selection criteria to prompt the change. Bear in mind, still a layman here. I'm sure there are more scientifically literate people out there that would do better.

But I think I've proved my point, no?

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but that is most logical explanation, if you say that it is not, then he is created, and we would start to ask who created all those creators, we would never stop, wich is illogical? so logically God is uncreated just like he said, and that is only a property of God, nobody else.

It's nowhere near the most logical answer, because there's no logic to it! What you're doing is assuming there's a god, and then making your argument fit that, rather than following reality.

For example, what if there's just no god? Ever even consider that? What if the science we have now shows us what happened- real science by the way, not your misunderstanding of science- and you're just talking a whole bunch of nothing? Stop just assuming that your god exists and going from there, that's the definition of illogical.

beacuse i have studied quran for so long and come to conslusion that it is only book from him , unchanged and uncorrupted since the time of revelation and i have all evidence for that claim

So because your single, biased source says that he's real, he's therefore real? That's incredibly fallacious. Not even worth rebutting, really: you know there are even older books than the quran which claim their god is the one that created the universe. Why are they wrong but you're right?

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here is question for you

How could non-thining nature create natural engine with 40 parts joined on correct places? how could nature put these parts like puzzles on correct places, logically inteklectual being iis that who think like that?

Do me a favor: point one out. Show me an organism that's like that, and I will go out and find you its evolutionary antecedents. I promise. Give me something to work with, and watch me go.