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The Bible-Boooooring
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RE: The Bible-Boooooring
(March 28, 2013 at 1:17 am)jstrodel Wrote: No, an ad hominem attack is an irrelevant statement made to discredit people. This is different from criticizing individuals or movements which is fair game. They are not ad hominem, and I have provided evidence.

To attack someones mental state is a fallacy (unless you have good evidence they suffer from psychiatric problems), it is irrelevant information that is unknown and presupposed and it is a dirty trick and is deceptive, because I don't have the problems you mention. You are lying and attempting to discredit my testimony.


If someone says someone else has psychiatric problems, and they have no evidence for it, that is ad hominem. It is arguing against the person, and it is a very special case of ad hominem which is especially fallacious and dirty because it attacks people credibility through attacking their health and cognitive functioning. It is a very evil thing to do, similar in some ways to arguing that someone is incapable of making a decision because they are black and are biologically incapable, so their beliefs can be swept aside without considering their ideas.

Strodel, I'd argue that claims of being possessed, of speaking with god, the stuff that you claim is cause to believe a certain degree of mental illness. Is it conclusive? No. But is it cause for concern? Yes.

Just consider the possibility that the belief is genuine, and not just a way to attack you. For one, the man who doesn't believe in god is generally more inclined to seek out reasons for stuff like that based in reality. And also... well, hearing voices and stuff like that really is a sign of possible illness, whether you ascribe god to be the source of that voice or something else. Sorry if that offends you, but mental illness ain't funny, so that's not really a joke.
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The Bible-Boooooring - by CapnAwesome - March 24, 2013 at 8:48 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by MysticKnight - March 24, 2013 at 8:53 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Minimalist - March 24, 2013 at 9:27 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Minimalist - March 24, 2013 at 8:53 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by rexbeccarox - March 24, 2013 at 9:39 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tonus - March 24, 2013 at 9:57 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 10:47 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by John V - March 25, 2013 at 9:05 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by CapnAwesome - March 25, 2013 at 11:59 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by John V - March 25, 2013 at 12:34 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Godschild - March 25, 2013 at 2:22 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Minimalist - March 25, 2013 at 2:39 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 25, 2013 at 3:39 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Godschild - March 25, 2013 at 4:00 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by CleanShavenJesus - March 26, 2013 at 1:25 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Justtristo - March 25, 2013 at 4:23 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Minimalist - March 25, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 25, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Minimalist - March 25, 2013 at 11:39 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Neo-Scholastic - March 25, 2013 at 3:51 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 25, 2013 at 9:57 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 25, 2013 at 11:39 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 26, 2013 at 4:31 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by thesummerqueen - March 25, 2013 at 10:30 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 25, 2013 at 11:36 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by thesummerqueen - March 26, 2013 at 6:35 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by smax - March 26, 2013 at 6:07 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Minimalist - March 26, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by DeistPaladin - March 26, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 26, 2013 at 6:21 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 26, 2013 at 11:20 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 26, 2013 at 11:31 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Darkstar - March 26, 2013 at 11:33 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Cato - March 27, 2013 at 12:26 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by CapnAwesome - March 27, 2013 at 5:42 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Darkstar - March 27, 2013 at 6:02 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 26, 2013 at 11:41 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by catfish - March 27, 2013 at 6:16 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 27, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by CleanShavenJesus - March 27, 2013 at 9:02 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Minimalist - March 27, 2013 at 10:27 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Creed of Heresy - March 27, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Esquilax - March 27, 2013 at 10:47 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Creed of Heresy - March 27, 2013 at 11:15 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Minimalist - March 27, 2013 at 11:25 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 27, 2013 at 11:42 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 28, 2013 at 12:00 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Minimalist - March 28, 2013 at 12:41 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 28, 2013 at 12:54 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Minimalist - March 28, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Esquilax - March 28, 2013 at 1:08 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 28, 2013 at 1:17 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Esquilax - March 28, 2013 at 1:36 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by CleanShavenJesus - March 28, 2013 at 11:18 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 28, 2013 at 1:46 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 28, 2013 at 1:49 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 28, 2013 at 2:08 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 28, 2013 at 2:23 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Esquilax - March 28, 2013 at 2:34 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 28, 2013 at 2:43 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 28, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Esquilax - March 28, 2013 at 3:12 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 28, 2013 at 3:02 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by downbeatplumb - March 28, 2013 at 11:23 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 28, 2013 at 3:10 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 28, 2013 at 3:12 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by CapnAwesome - March 28, 2013 at 11:08 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Esquilax - March 28, 2013 at 11:53 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Esquilax - March 28, 2013 at 3:20 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Joel - March 28, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 28, 2013 at 12:02 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 28, 2013 at 2:45 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Joel - March 28, 2013 at 12:03 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Neo-Scholastic - March 28, 2013 at 7:44 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by rexbeccarox - March 28, 2013 at 5:29 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 28, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by catfish - March 28, 2013 at 6:05 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Cato - March 28, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by The Grand Nudger - March 28, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Joel - March 28, 2013 at 6:08 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 28, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Joel - March 28, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Neo-Scholastic - March 28, 2013 at 10:40 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Joel - March 28, 2013 at 10:49 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Neo-Scholastic - March 28, 2013 at 11:08 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 28, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 28, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Minimalist - March 28, 2013 at 10:56 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Joel - March 28, 2013 at 11:09 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 28, 2013 at 11:16 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Neo-Scholastic - March 28, 2013 at 11:39 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 28, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Minimalist - March 29, 2013 at 12:45 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 29, 2013 at 11:42 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Psykhronic - March 29, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 29, 2013 at 12:30 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 29, 2013 at 12:34 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 29, 2013 at 1:09 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by CleanShavenJesus - March 29, 2013 at 2:33 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Joel - March 29, 2013 at 1:10 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 29, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 29, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 29, 2013 at 3:20 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 29, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by CleanShavenJesus - March 29, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Paraselene - March 29, 2013 at 3:43 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 29, 2013 at 3:49 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 29, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Paraselene - March 29, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by CleanShavenJesus - March 29, 2013 at 4:06 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 29, 2013 at 4:11 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by The Grand Nudger - March 29, 2013 at 5:48 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 29, 2013 at 6:28 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 29, 2013 at 9:14 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 29, 2013 at 10:41 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Joel - March 29, 2013 at 10:43 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by jstrodel - March 29, 2013 at 10:51 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 30, 2013 at 3:08 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Joel - March 29, 2013 at 10:54 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 29, 2013 at 11:56 pm
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Whateverist - March 30, 2013 at 1:01 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 30, 2013 at 11:11 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Ryantology - March 30, 2013 at 1:10 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 30, 2013 at 10:55 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:19 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by Tex - March 30, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: The Bible-Boooooring - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:45 am

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