"He was wrong"
Then don't use his proof? It wasn't designed to function in the way you're using it, which is why they are punching holes in it like fat people on trampolines.
"Cause and effect is a characteristic of the universe, what is outside the universe can be something different, we don't know!"
I figured God was orderly. God is either orderly or he's not. If disorderly, everything created should be chaotic. If orderly, things should follow a set predictable formula. I look around the world. I see predictable formula.
Even more so, if God weren't orderly, we couldn't use philosophy/logic, an ordered discipline, to reach knowledge of his existence.
Then don't use his proof? It wasn't designed to function in the way you're using it, which is why they are punching holes in it like fat people on trampolines.
"Cause and effect is a characteristic of the universe, what is outside the universe can be something different, we don't know!"
I figured God was orderly. God is either orderly or he's not. If disorderly, everything created should be chaotic. If orderly, things should follow a set predictable formula. I look around the world. I see predictable formula.
Even more so, if God weren't orderly, we couldn't use philosophy/logic, an ordered discipline, to reach knowledge of his existence.
The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; the Lord lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace.
