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I gotta say Kyu, that while many of your points are valid, the tone with which you present them is not constructive at all. Although they may not share your beliefs, a creationist is not necessarily stupid, and I feel that the first few paragraphs of your piece imply such. Is this going to lead to an actual debate, or just raise hackles? If your point was to insult only, then ok, you probably managed.

Although it is based on an old post (very), point taken ... I will try and post in a, er, more positive fashion in future.

Kyu

I've done worse here myself. I think it is part of the game to get a little pissed or at least impatient now and then. I never take it personally.

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Yes but religion CAN be a HUGE irrational motivator. Much more so than sport or music. I can't imagine 9/11 happening for sport or music.

True, but on a lesser scale it is pretty much the same thing. I can tell you this, religion won't destroy the world but nuclear weapons and other science made arsenal could.

Futhermore science based thinking is not connected to prejudice and bias anymore than liking eating apples is connected to prejudice and bias.
You get prejudice and biased scientists only like you get prejudiced and biased apple eaters. PEOPLE can be prejudiced and biased regardless of whether they're a scientist, atheist or theist or astrologer or whatever.

True, but being biased on eating apples or regarding astrology or Bible theism isn't the propaganda we teach our children in school in the name of science. Our children, man! Of course, you wouldn't see that was a problem but think of it from a different perspective. What if they changed it all around and taught Creationism in schools like it were fact in the way that they do evolution.

BUT religion CAN motivate people to do insanely irrational things. And these CAN be very dangerous. And they can do these things whether they are good people or NOT. This is not the case with science.

Of course it is the case with science. You gather the greatest scientific minds together and appease their egos and childlike sense of scientific adventure and they will make for you the most insanely irrational weapons that could destroy them and everything else. If you don't call that insanely irrational you have just given an example of bias yourself.

Science, like the religion of the dark ages, is thought by an increasingly large margin of people as a false hope. The only thing it needs now is the political backing religion had then and you have a powder keg ready to blow.