The price of attonement???

[Drich]

What about the magicians who did their own magic?

What are some of the names of those first centry magicians you speak of? Where is the documentation of their deeds? Where is the silence scrunity of the religious leaders of that day?
The reason none of it exists is because those who live at that time debunked any claims to deity. Remember to record something and to perserve it then was a very expensive undertaking. something not to be waisted on the trivial or questionable.

What about Satan who does what he wants now?

He doesn't do what he wants now. Even when he had free reign he still had to run it all past God. Read the book of Job for confirmation.

Why would God allow Satan respite to lead astray people but not allow Jesus if Jesus gave in to temptations?

Satan was playing a role, and is bound/limited to the degree he can play it. Christ power and authority Comes from the Father, He is doing the Father's will.

Also, what if the "Father" was in on it. If the son can sin, surely the father can as well, after all, they both have free-will right?

what would be the point? If it is all some trick then we are all doomed like the muslims anyway.

Moving the goalposts. You said "how can result of something unacceptable be acceptable?"

Then you made the assertion being born is a sin. Which it is not. The goal posts have not moved you do not seem to understand their placement.

But if God reacts with mercy and compassion (attonement), you don't see it as result of sin?

No, why? Because sin is Choice. You understand God to be uncontroled emotional mess who is lead around by his hatred of sin.

I see a God who distains sin, but allows us the oppertunity to sin in order for us to make a choice (where we want to spend eternity), but the very act of choosing disqualifies any choice we make. Enter Jesus and his attonement, now the plan is complete. God gives us the ablity to Choose in the garden and also attones for the sin we commit when making our choice.

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I love how your ultimate thoughts on the matter is that my heart is hardened. What a copout. You've failed to convey the love you claim to see, the love you imply is so obvious and apparent. My heart isn't hardened. You're incompetent. Try not to confuse the two.

You admitted that you can not see love here. I can only go so far as what the bible states or defines as an act of love. To which I did and you defined this acts as some appauling, cop out, blame someone else crap thing.. In short you did not see the love in what God did here. If you can't then know God is hiding from you, and there is nothing I can do to help you find Him. At this point whether you understand this precept/God's love is completely on you. God offers you like everyone else an oppertunity, if you take it your eyes will be opened, if you don't your heart will only be further hardened.