If god were real...

[Godscreated]

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Why has a murderer never used that as a defense in a court of law, you know, God made me do it because He fore knew what choice I would make. It's not me who is guilty, I had no choice in the matter.

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I'm calling "Poe".

Are you really that dense?You are aware that our court system doesn't recognize the existence of god?

You are further aware that MANY people have used that very explanation (though it usually takes the form of "the devil made me do it")?

This is most generally referred to as an "Insanity Plea".

His phone is disconnected, he's dead and God knows where he is. Ha, Ha
What, our courts have never said God does not exist, you must think I ...or is it you that lives in Russia. Switching devil in place of God, shame on you, you have jumped off subject. The insanity plea is a secular designation for; hey I did it but am not responsible for my actions, a cop out on responsibility.

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If you had God's omniscience you would be scared to do anything. God knowing before hand that Lucifer would usher in evil does not make Him responsible for the evil, Lucifer is the guilty party.

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I never said he'd be scared to do anything. What do you mean God knowing Lucifer would be evil does not make him responsible? Now your child/murderer analogy actually does work (at least, the version I created to fit the situation), but not in your favor.

I did not say you did, my response was to Rhythm, he said I was saying God was scared of satan.

God is 100% responsible for the evil of Lucifer if he created Lucifer with the knowledge that he would be evil. That's just common sense.

What happen to logic, that word pops up everywhere.
As I said before if Lucifer did not fail another angel would have, this being the case God still would have know who. So by your proposal it would have been better for God to have not created the angels or man, He should have stopped at the animals. He should have denied Himself of the love He desired.

But of course, you outright denied that God created Lucifer at all a couple of pages ago. So maybe your knowledge is a bit shady.

I've never said God did not create Lucifer, I do not know how you came to such a conclusion.

What you lack is understanding of the scriptures, God created the angels, mankind and any other beings capable of loving God for that very reason, God wanted His created ones to love Him.

...but he created the evil one he knew would be evil.

I guess you're the one lacking understanding of the scriptures, because I'm just responding based on what you're posting.

God did not create satan, He created the angel of angels, the top ranked angel, who was called Lucifer. Lucifer made himself into satan, scripture tells us this, period. You have a son, you train him up to be a good citizen, you've done a good job. Then your son takes a turn, by his own decision he becomes a murderer, it's your fault even though you raised him contrary to what he has become, isn't this what you are saying.

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People -do- try to use that defense (god made me do it).....and sometimes- it works...sadly

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/04/03/childr...?_s=PM:LAW
"Mom who said she killed on God's orders acquitted"

as to your question more specifically GC, most of our laws (esp criminal) have something to do with the idea of intent, of "free will" - that's not an indicator that these things exist - that;s just how our laws are setup. Your omniscient busybody would put the lie to that, but courts don't care - because the shit that you dredge out of your holy book doesn't factor into how they run "their business". In this case, she wasn't acquitted, for example, because anyone thought god made her do it - but because the defense made the case that she was insane - an easy case to make...when you can open it out with "this grown adult believes in fairies".

This court case has nothing to do with God's omniscience, His foreknowledge makes Him guilty of all crime is the argument. This said, if that were true then everyone is innocent because God foreknew their action. This is preposterous, it implies the maker of anything misused is guilty of the crime, like what Colorado is trying to pass as a gun law. They want to make the manufacture of guns responsible for the crime committed with their gun, that's insanity of the greatest kind.